Troll Lord Games

Hi all, first post. Played C&C at Gary Con, really enjoyed it and I bought the books. I'm getting ready to run the system and some questions, even though I find the rules to be very clear and simple. For example, how do you handle a player that wants to delay their action in a round? It's proba...

And in a lot of cases, a check might not even be a check required. There is also the difference between the general and the specific. Consider the ranger's Track ability. No one needs to be a ranger to notice a giant footprint in the mud (or even make a check). But only a trained ranger would notice...

Welcome to the boards! You will find us to be a helpful passionate, sometimes wild, bunch. :) Glad to have another 2nd Ed guy here. I grew up on 2nd Ed, and i loved the feel of it as well. To your question, there is nothing wrong with how you're handling it. I think a number of people here do it tha...

Skills and Powers was what was used to customize your racial abilities using a point system to purchase them. Classes fell under the same type system. Indeed- this is the best part of the book in my mind. My group in the day had already implemented these kinds of tweaks. So my favorite ranger could...

No where can i find a reference that Hasbro paid out $6-50 milion to each state. It's COMPLETELY irrelevant what you can or cannot find online from the 90's. Most items from the time period and before don't exist online. Hell, 50% of things I saw on news 15 years ago aren't online now. And Google h...

Each state won between 6 and 50 million from Hasbro I think. Only $6 million, so pretty small settlement for a company their size. Reread the last sentence in what I wrote. :roll: Reread the article i sent. It says $6 million total, not $6 million to each state. :roll: For example, they cite what F...

Look for State attorney Generals lawsuit hasbro. You'll probably find it that way. Our company had a large international I.P. law firm on retainer for about 2 million a year and I got a briefing on it in 2000. So probably happened a year or two before that. About 40 states sued them for anti compet...

Naw, their history of anti-competitive business practices is MUCH larger than what happened a year ago. Thoroughly evil. It took 46 States in Fed court to stop them earlier in this century Hrmm.... I am not familiar with this. Do you have a news source or article about it? When i do a search of &qu...

Interesting but I won't give WotC or Hasbro even a penny anymore. Hmmm... while i get the senitiment and certainly won't defend or purchase WotC material, in this case they've done something good, imo. Most of the money goes to Lego anyways, i would think. So punish the bad, reward the good, perhap...

I know (or knew) the books fairly well. They are a mixed batch. Skills & Powers was the one i found the most useful. I particularly liked the options that permitted characters to customize their class abilities. It also had new proficiences and mastery rules. Spells & Magic had a few new cla...

I've been using Lego Castle figures and sets for D&D adventures since the 90's, but for the first time Lego now actually has a specific licensed D&D set, based on the recent movie. Includes monsters of dragon, displacer beast, beholder, and (my favorite) gelatinous cube. https://www.lego.com...

A new kickstarter coming soon...

https://trolllord.com/worlds-of-gary-gygax/

-Fizz

Right. Thus the longer skill list. A rogue-player can choose whichever abilities best fit his/her character concept. Historically thieves, assassins, acrobats, rakes and even bards have been considered rogues. Which is why i have always that said the C&C rogue should not be named such. It shoul...

1) All illusionist spells are now wizard spells too, thus you can "specialize if you want", but its all just arcane magic. Thus ends the class illusionist. This sounds related to AD&D 2nd Ed's version, where you could be a generic mage or a specialist in any school of magic. I like th...

The illusionist class came about as a conceptual class based around trickery of the mind and phantasms...few of which were able to cause actual damage though they could trick the victim into doing damage to themselves or falling prey to their environment. Exactly, and that's what an illusionist sho...

It's interesting (to me anyway) that the BECMI attempt at a bard class, from the Dragon Princess Ark articles, was basically a thief with some charm abilities. Kind of like the C&C bard :) In Dragon #177, it says the bard uses thief as a starting point, minus pick pockets and backstabbing, plus...

If you don't want a full spellcasting bard, you might want to check out the AD&D 2nd Ed version of the the bard. It is a rogue-ish, jack-of-all-trades type of bard, and is very easy to convert to C&C.

-Fizz

paladinn wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:41 pm

I'm starting to like bringing more 2e-isms into C&C. Specialty priests are in view:)

I use a lot of 2nd Ed material and ideas, including spheres. I sent you an early version of my C&C spheres doc about a year ago.
See viewtopic.php?t=17975

-Fizz

I guess I would have to treat the thief talents separately than "normal" class abilities. Currently BTB, a rogue would basically get a "+1" to all the talents every level. At L1, each talent would have a +1 as BTB. The distributed concept would then give 8 "points" per...

See the following thread (which you started, i might add... ):
viewtopic.php?p=261475

-Fizz

The Iron flask description states that the creature from another plane that gets sucked into the flask gets a Wisdom save but no level of save difficulty is listed. I guess it would be vs. the level of caster needed to create but no spell stands out for its creation. Any erudite ideas? I think it h...

My hit point (I saw what you did there) is to provide a "floor" for each level's hp increase. A fighter can still score 10 hp if they roll great. If they don't they're still looking at 6. Or could do 5. A L10 wizard will still have a max of 40 before Con bonus; a L10 fighter will have 100...

Captain_K wrote: ↑

Tue May 16, 2023 1:15 am

It's at sad thing, death and dying, even worse when it's out of the game.

It is. Been through a bit of that myself lately (family related, not gaming). Condolences to you and your entire gaming group.

-Fizz

For subsequent levels, start with a player's current total. Each HD-type has a minimum of about 1/2 the max+1: i.e. 6 for a d10, 5 for a d8, 4 for a d6, 3 for a d4 (the d4 guys need the help). Then roll one. You're guaranteed to get at least the minimum. Then add Con bonus. You can't get a sucky &q...

As to the post, I remember Steve saying in his home game of C&C, he used (at the time) a single Prime for all abilities of a class, ie Str rolls for all ranger abilities or Cha for all knight abilities. Those against it felt that it drastically changed how Primes were received. Also, I've playe...

I don't think the point is that class abilities should be treated as <attribute>-based. Rather, for class abilities, a character has sufficient aptitude to warrant "adding the prime bonus." Given your previous opinions on keeping class abilities "just for that class", I'd think ...

There once was a thread where the troll lords themselves answered this question. I searched for it high and low but have yet to find it. The short answer is yes, the intent of the rules are that all class abilities should be treated as prime. That being said, you are free to play how you wish at yo...

I got that the first time. I'm just thinking of a framework for such abilities across the board. Again, rangers get 2 such abilities that are always-on. Seems a little OP by comparison. Paladins are also immune to disease all the time . Paladins are immune to fear all the time . Etc etc. If you're ...

Per the PHB, a Rogue cannot Hide and Move Silently at the same time until 3rd level. At 3rd level and beyond they have to make a move silent and conceal check at -5 and can only move at 1/4 speed. Ah yes, that's an important detail. Thanks for reminding me. So that would mean the thief could (if 3r...

New to the rules here but here is the situation at hand; the group spills into a large room filled with goblins and a Gnoll leader. The thief wants to sneak along the columns that run down near each wall and backstab the Gnoll. Can all this be done the same round, i.e., rolling move silently, hide ...