Favorite Game Company???

All topics including role playing games, board games, etc., etc.
Philotomy Jurament
Ulthal
Posts: 428
Joined: Thu May 11, 2006 7:00 am

Post by Philotomy Jurament »

Joe wrote:
I myself cannot get past Paizo's art to see anything else. My own shortcoming...I know.The massive phallic swords and the anime looking characters I am sure are popular...just not for me.

Give me the classic b&w interiors and the sexist Vall/Frazetta barbarian defending the bombshell maiden any day over androgeny!

You're not alone, man.
_________________
http://www.philotomy.com
Lost City Campaign Log

Treebore
Mogrl
Posts: 20660
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:00 am
Location: Arizona and St Louis

Post by Treebore »

I much prefer b/w art myself, but on the whole the art Paizo does is pretty darn good, if often a bit too anime and colorful
_________________
The Ruby Lord, Earl of the Society

Next Con I am attending: http://www.neoncon.com/

My House Rules: http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... llordgames
Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals.
Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael

Grand Knight Commander of the Society.

User avatar
Joe
Unkbartig
Posts: 949
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:00 am

Post by Joe »

Treebore please try and cooperate here.
I do not make mention of Paizo looking for you to simply agree with me. I want you riled and arguing with me to make it interesting.
Yawn...oh well

Mortality of Green still kicks ANY adventure "thread" baby!
_________________
'Nosce te Ipsum' -Delphic Maxim

'Follow your bliss.' -Joseph Campbell

Treebore
Mogrl
Posts: 20660
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:00 am
Location: Arizona and St Louis

Post by Treebore »

Joe wrote:
Treebore please try and cooperate here.
I do not make mention of Paizo looking for you to simply agree with me. I want you riled and arguing with me to make it interesting.
Yawn...oh well

Mortality of Green still kicks ANY adventure "thread" baby!

I learned many years ago there is very little worth fighting over. People believe what they believe, think what they think, and behave the way they behave, and only they can change it.

All I can do is avoid the people I want to avoid and not fight with the ones I can't.
_________________
The Ruby Lord, Earl of the Society

Next Con I am attending: http://www.neoncon.com/

My House Rules: http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... llordgames
Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals.
Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael

Grand Knight Commander of the Society.

User avatar
Go0gleplex
Greater Lore Drake
Posts: 3723
Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 7:00 am
Location: Keizer, OR

Post by Go0gleplex »

To quote Mr. Miyagi;

"Fighting never good. Someone always get hurt."
_________________
The obvious will always trip you up FAR more than the obscure.

Baron Grignak Hammerhand of the Pacifica Provinces-

High Warden of the Castles & Crusades Society
"Rolling dice and killing characters since September 1976."
"Author of Wardogs! and Contributor to Iron Stars and Starmada-Admiralty ed."
"Certified crazy since 2009."

serleran
Mogrl
Posts: 13866
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:00 am

Post by serleran »

When it comes to art... I hate it. Games do not need it.
_________________
If it matters, leave a message at the beep.
Serl's Corner

User avatar
ArgoForg
Red Cap
Posts: 341
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:00 am
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Contact:

Post by ArgoForg »

Re: Art, my opinion... Art grabs my attention. Good cartography, dynamic color cover illos, good quality interior art... those are the things are what make me flip through the book and say, "This might be a possibility." Rules, layout and story keep my attention, though. They turn the possibility into a definite yea or nay.

I generally take a comic-book approach to the stuff I really like. If it has beautiful artwork but turgid writing or inconsistencies in the rules I can't wrap my brain around, it's not worth my money. Nuff said. Mostly the bigger names make this error, not the smaller ones. Big companies get on schedules and deadlines and forget that if you package dog poo in gilt gift wrap, it's still dog poo.

OTOH, if it's a great written work and the art is crap, it might be aight, but I still won't go out of my way for it. A couple of the 3PP Pathfinder items I've picked up do this... I know there's a great book of equipment whose name I forget right offhand. I love the equipment and writeups they've done-- it's all very imaginative-- but the interior art is downright hideous at places, and it really makes what could have been a great product a step above meh. There are good artists available for cheap, commercial-free stock art in droves and a metric buttload of fledglings or wannabes who are willing to put their best work out on the cheap for interior illos. How hard is it to show your product's worth it?

Now, on the occasions that it's got both good writing and good art, I will most often be both a follower and a fan. It shows to me that the publisher isn't willing to settle for half-measures in their products. I don't like buying, reading or doing without something that paycheck for a half-measure.

Just my opinion. That's what makes a company's products worthwhile to me when I haven't yet met them personally.
_________________
- "Sorry, I just happen to prefer games where the GM is an actual arbitrator and not the wall to roll dice off to decide what happens."
- "I just happen to prefer games where the GM actually has final say on rules and is not just the wall to roll dice off to decide what happens."

User avatar
Sir Ironside
Lore Drake
Posts: 1595
Joined: Sat May 02, 2009 7:00 am

Post by Sir Ironside »

serleran wrote:
When it comes to art... I hate it. Games do not need it.

By the recent thread about relaunching Starseige, you seem to be in the minority.
I certainly don't mind art in rpg's. The serve other purposes like breaking up walls of text and helping in locating information in books easier. To me, it is about balance. The current crop of TLG products are pretty good at art/word balance, but if you need an example of art/word balance gone horribly wrong, just pick up a copy of Judge Dredd (Traveller Rules edition) by Mongoose.
_________________
That is SIR! to you!
"Paranoia is just another word for ignorance." - Hunter S. Thompson

Lucifer_Draconus
Hlobane Orc
Posts: 160
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 7:00 am

Post by Lucifer_Draconus »

Ironcrown Enterprises followed by TLG, Palladium Books & Paizo.
_________________
Let me wet my blade with your blood.

RIP Gary Gygax you will be missed.

Lucifer_Draconus
Hlobane Orc
Posts: 160
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 7:00 am

Post by Lucifer_Draconus »

Joe wrote:
I myself cannot get past Paizo's art to see anything else. My own shortcoming...I know. But when you not only have a black paladin in your core rulebook but a female black paladin I cannot help but wonder what sort of PC approach or statement is being made at the expense of MY time and money. I saw a Dark Heresy cover that looked exactly like it, only they had oversized guns instead of swords. Could be same artist for all I know. The massive phallic swords and the anime looking characters I am sure are popular...just not for me.

Give me the classic b&w interiors and the sexist Vall/Frazetta barbarian defending the bombshell maiden any day over androgeny!

Just a rant...sorry, we've gone here before.

Gah! I like Paizo's art. One of the reasons I like their product , I especially like Wayne Reynolds work. BTW their art is not overly anime influenced , it just has a more stylized comicbook influence to it. Since I'm a BIG fan of Anime/Manga & comicbooks their art doesn't bother me. That said I do love the classic art of Frazetta et all , plus the stuff of Liam Sharp & Simon Bisley.

On the subject of the Dark Heresy art they are digital art by a seperate artist that does frequent cover art for GW/BL's WH 40k novel line. I love that art too.
_________________
Let me wet my blade with your blood.

RIP Gary Gygax you will be missed.

User avatar
concobar
Ulthal
Posts: 774
Joined: Sun May 13, 2007 7:00 am

Re: Favorite Game Company???

Post by concobar »

Joe wrote:
Whats your favorite game company?

Whats your favorite 3rd party publisher?

Why?



My favorite game company is probably TSR/WotC based on a quick glance at my book shelves. I own many many box sets from the B/X and BECMI and multiples of each of the 1st edition AD&D books. I have close to twenty 4E hardback books and many adventures. I have a half a row of various retro clone or derived works products including LL, DD, MF, S&W, OSRIC, and C&C.

Without WotC there would be no C&C or any of the rest i mentioned.

Goodman games is my favorite third party publisher. I like their old school dungeons.
_________________

Plaag
Red Cap
Posts: 241
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 7:00 am

Post by Plaag »

Judges Guild

Privateer Press

The first for their creativity and wonderful world setting (like the sandbox style)

The later for their great writing/background and art.

ShaneG.

User avatar
bloodymage
Hlobane Orc
Posts: 145
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 7:00 am
Location: Bloody Krag in the Kyrian Confederacy

Post by bloodymage »

Quote:
Can we leave it at some "companies remember it is their customers who make them successful and value them more" ?

You are by far more active and play more games than the vast number of folks I refer to with the label "Hardcore gamer". I believe this makes you an exception amongst the exceptional. Wink



TLG is great as are many others mentioned, but no one's mention Kenzer & Company. They rely on customer input and submissions like no other. Hardcore? That's where my sig comes from. Now I'm not real fond of Dave Kenzer, he cops a serious attitude (corporate lawyer, go figure), but Jolly is great. Their products are usually phenomenal, though as with any publisher there are sometimes gripes about editing. I only go on here about them because they've not been mentioned and deserve it. Four stellar products include Kingdoms of Kalamar, HackMaster, Aces & Eights and Knights of the Dinner Table, but they have several other fun offerings.
_________________
Death to all PCs!

Post Reply