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Troll Lord
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:00 am Posts: 3232
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 Crusader 27
Greetings all,
The first submissions for Crusader 27 landed on my desk last night. Mark Sandy worked up a nice guideline for making your existing class, multiclass (he's always switching mid-stream in my game). And we are working on a roll called Class Check...a quick and dirty way to do class-based perception checks if you are so inclined (your probably already doing this).
But we need more submissions.
If your interested in landing in Crusader with an adventure (short), magic items, spells, home rules that are pretty cool, etc give us a shout. Email TODD at todd AT trolllord.com.
Thanks, Steve
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Frost
Beer Giant Jarl
Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:00 am Posts: 1324 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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 Re: Crusader 27
I'm eager to hear about this one. I came up with my own rule, although it's more specific to surprise rolls. Instead of just a Wisdom roll, I allow the players to make a Dex roll if they prefer. It just seemed odd that the Cleric was surprised less than the Rogue. 
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Lord Dynel
Maukling
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 5842
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 Re: Crusader 27
Nice, Steve! Interested in seeing this!
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Mac Golden
Hlobane Orc
Joined: Thu May 25, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 136
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 Re: Crusader 27
Class checks actually go beyond perception. I will write the article for it if the editor will let me.... 
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Rigon
Clang lives!
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 7141 Location: Conneaut Lake, PA
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 Re: Crusader 27
You could always just bribe him with Dr Pepper. R-
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Wed May 01, 2013 3:29 am |
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Captain_K
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:37 pm Posts: 2165 Location: North Coast
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 Re: Crusader 27
PER (perception) = (INT+WIS+DEX+3d6)/4 Put it on PC sheets right after the main six Use this for those darn nagging times, who notices what, but its not too specific.
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Omote
Battle Stag
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 11558 Location: The fairest view in the park, Ohio.
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 Re: Crusader 27
Neat idea.
~O
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Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:23 pm |
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Treebore
Mogrl
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 20660 Location: Arizona and St Louis
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 Re: Crusader 27
If I decide to go there, I'll just go with what I did in 1E AD&D for "perception", or do the INT+WIS/2=Perception attribute idea. I don't see a reason to increase such a formula to 4 numbers, but hey, if you like it, by all means do it. To me that is what C&C is all about.
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Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:51 pm |
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Buttmonkey
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 2026
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 Re: Crusader 27
Gah! I'd rather just create a new perception stat and have the player roll 3d6.
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Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:39 pm |
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Treebore
Mogrl
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 20660 Location: Arizona and St Louis
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 Re: Crusader 27
Exactly why C&C is so awesome. Ultimately we do whatever we like best.
_________________ Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals. Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
Grand Knight Commander of the Society.
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Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:53 pm |
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Frost
Beer Giant Jarl
Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:00 am Posts: 1324 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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 Re: Crusader 27
Somewhat related, I don't like that Wisdom checks are used for Surprise checks. Why are clerics never surprised?  It seems to give that attribute extra weight. My house rule is that each player can pick to use either his Wisdom (i.e., hits wits) or his Dex (i.e., reflexes) for surprise checks. I also have the players all roll, but just use the best roll for their "side." Simplifies things a bit.
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Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:01 pm |
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Sir Osis of Liver
Unkbartig
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 822
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 Re: Crusader 27
Submission sent to Todd.
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Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:37 pm |
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Captain_K
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:37 pm Posts: 2165 Location: North Coast
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 Re: Crusader 27
Great idea, simply have the equivalent of a 7th stat (or 8th if you use COM) - PERC. You could allow it to be modified by some classes (thieves, assassins, Druids, Barbarians, Rangers and monks) and some races if appropriate? In my old way, which was a hodge-podge of trying too keep everyone happy that their PC SHOULD be the most perceptive, by the time you averaged three stats plus a roll it usually washes out and most PCs end up around the same... If you consider "perception" not to be INT, WIS, or DEX, it might be fun to keep the roll method highly varied, 3D6 even if other stats are 4D6 drop lowest or some such... the highly intelligent mage with the 5 PERC could be fun!
Anyway, like Tree says, more than one way to skin the cat or should we say, "Notice if someone in the next room is skinning a cat."
PS When crediting or referencing Treebore, I see "Tree" a lot, sorry Buttmonkey, is there a polite shortening?
Kirk
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Captain_K
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:37 pm Posts: 2165 Location: North Coast
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 Re: Crusader 27
Alternate ideas for Encumbrance for your next issue:\
Make the players eacch draw their PC with everything on it, in its place; even a stick figure works. Its a fun task for all when taking a pizza break or some such and the group votes (peer pressure) who has too much stuff on their PC.. then they lighten the load as needed. If they won't do it willingly wait till they fail a save and their junk gets fried.... Play on.
Most silly fun to drive the point home is to dress up one person (the worst offender) in all their junk, have them jump onto a chair or better still make one roll (shoulder or summersault) across the floor too really feel what too much stuff does to you.
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:40 am |
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Captain_K
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:37 pm Posts: 2165 Location: North Coast
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 Re: Crusader 27
Here is a short one page original comic by Scott Smith circa 1983
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Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:29 am |
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Captain_K
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:37 pm Posts: 2165 Location: North Coast
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 Re: Crusader 27
More Pen and Ink by Scott Smith circa 1985
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cuchulainkevin
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Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 791
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Kirk_O wrote:
Great idea, simply have the equivalent of a 7th stat (or 8th if you use COM) - PERC. You could allow it to be modified by some classes (thieves, assassins, Druids, Barbarians, Rangers and monks) and some races if appropriate? In my old way, which was a hodge-podge of trying too keep everyone happy that their PC SHOULD be the most perceptive, by the time you averaged three stats plus a roll it usually washes out and most PCs end up around the same... If you consider "perception" not to be INT, WIS, or DEX, it might be fun to keep the roll method highly varied, 3D6 even if other stats are 4D6 drop lowest or some such... the highly intelligent mage with the 5 PERC could be fun!
Anyway, like Tree says, more than one way to skin the cat or should we say, "Notice if someone in the next room is skinning a cat."
PS When crediting or referencing Treebore, I see "Tree" a lot, sorry Buttmonkey, is there a polite shortening?
Kirk
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Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:55 am |
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Captain_K
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Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:37 pm Posts: 2165 Location: North Coast
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 Re: Crusader 27
Is this thing dead? Or just on break until other stuff is finished?
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Thu May 01, 2014 1:43 am |
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Treebore
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Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 20660 Location: Arizona and St Louis
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 Re: Crusader 27
Crusader is always on hiatus until other stuff is finished. If it wasn't we would be on issue 54+.
_________________ Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals. Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
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Thu May 01, 2014 6:11 am |
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Fiffergrund
Lore Drake
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:00 am Posts: 1082 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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 Re: Crusader 27
If it picks up again, I might hop back in and contribute. I'm getting more free time again. 
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Mon May 05, 2014 7:02 pm |
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Sir Ironside
Lore Drake
Joined: Sat May 02, 2009 7:00 am Posts: 1595
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 Re: Crusader 27
At this point I'd settle for a quarterly magazine. Bump up the page count and bump up the cost. Make it a more financially feasible for TLG. I'd pay $5.00 + shipping. Maybe even a little more depending on how many pages where added. Once every 3 months seems reasonable. Print + pdf options, would be ideal. I don't know how I'd feel about a pdf only book, but pretty much every other rpg magazine (With the exception of Gygax Magazine, and maybe other mags I'm unaware of.) has gone pdf only, with Pyramid mag, Dragon mag and Dungeon mag all going this route.
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Mon May 05, 2014 8:21 pm |
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Arduin
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:12 pm Posts: 4045 Location: Granite quarry
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 Re: Crusader 27
If they get rid of a dead tree version it'll be more financially feasible. They could also sell them on RPGNow and the like.
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Mon May 05, 2014 8:37 pm |
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Treebore
Mogrl
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 20660 Location: Arizona and St Louis
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 Re: Crusader 27
Especially since they already do.
_________________ Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals. Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
Grand Knight Commander of the Society.
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Mon May 05, 2014 11:39 pm |
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Arduin
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:12 pm Posts: 4045 Location: Granite quarry
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Well, they sell OLD editions. Not new ones. 
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Tue May 06, 2014 1:08 am |
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DMSamuel
Red Cap
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:48 am Posts: 316 Location: Downstate NY
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 Re: Crusader 27
Honestly I'd rather a print copy - I'll be happy with quarterly... If my group gets going well I may even generate some articles for future issues.
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