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Post Plagerism, and why you will get caught and pwned!
Follow the links. I believe I don't have to add anything further.
http://www.runecrypt.com/forum/lofivers ... 27892.html
Not the first time my art has been pilfered either.
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Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:26 pm
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As if you're not used to this by now. People are funny. The internet is too big... no one will ever know. Heheh.


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That's awful!
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Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:33 pm
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Good lord... sorry to see people actually do this kind of stuff, not that he could not say original by peter Bradley, color by myself, but then, he would not be stealing someone's hard work for some wows.

Peter, I hope your work hasn't actually been pilfered in a professional circle. Ever.
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So far, its only been by a couple of amatures. As far as I know anyhow. The first instance, someone emailed me about it. This latest one, I actually stumbled across it quite by accident.
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Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:29 pm
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Well, hope things keep up to that damage then, since they really can't stand up to proof of their own work, at leats this means they enjoy what you do, I mean, even shit like this has a bright side to it.
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Some people have no shame.

On the flip side, if everyone did it, you'd only have yourself to compete with?
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I think the kid is wonderfully talented. It's a shame all of you can't give the poor kid is props. Think of all the hard work and hours of pain-staking detail that he put into it. Then to spend hours coloring it in. My god, have you people no shame.
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Fine. I think the young folk will have a fine future with the Mob in international art forgery.
How's dat for a prop?
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Yes, it takes hours to do a color select, and then, a color replace. I mean, it took me like a minute to figure out how to do it in the first place, so I imagine this person needed like.... a year or more, and some tutorial probably. Means he can follow pictures or read. That's a credit to dementia!


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Fine. I think the young folk will have a fine future with the Mob in international art forgery.
How's dat for a prop?



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Well, if anything, there's one lesson learned here...Anyone can claim to be Peter but none can walk in his shoes.

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Wow, that is crazy... what possesses a person To claim work as their own, especially a growing iconic piece of artwork?
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Glad to see the thief got "uncovered". Hope his brother did a smack down on him.

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Hey Peter; simply take all of this as a compliment.
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Hey Peter; simply take all of this as a compliment.
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*chuckles* I just find it vastly amusing myself. It's not the first time its happened.
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I'm confused. There are two pieces up there. One just a copy with the watermark off (which IS against copyright laws) and the second a piece derieved from the original, which while dubious, is not against the law. Was the story that he was trying to pass the first one off as his own?
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Yes.

Colorizing the art is not kosher however. The guy should have asked Peter if it was ok before he did it, but insisted on photoshopping the watermark out and tried to pass off the work as his instead.
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well not to nit pick (though that is what the lawyers will do) it seems he's done at least some of it by hand around on the bottom. That makes it his own. NOT BY MUCH, but still I believe might hold up in court. Also what makes this more mulitfacted, is the fact that he found this piece on a website that allows anyone to take a look. If I go to a museum and render a drawing almost exactly as a dali, than while It's obvious that it's a knock off it's still my original piece.
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I believe there have to be substantial differences, and merely modifying the "original" piece of art does not exempt it from copyright protection. He would need to redraw the entire thing by hand making his changes...I'm not sure of the minimum but it's around of over 20% if memory serves (which is no great guarantee). Coloring does not count towards the modification if it is merely coloration of the "original" piece.

The guy violated a copyright, plain and simple. He got busted righteously. Considering what could happen to him, I think he's getting off rather lightly at this point, no word to the contrary.
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well not to nit pick (though that is what the lawyers will do) it seems he's done at least some of it by hand around on the bottom. That makes it his own. NOT BY MUCH, but still I believe might hold up in court. Also what makes this more mulitfacted, is the fact that he found this piece on a website that allows anyone to take a look. If I go to a museum and render a drawing almost exactly as a dali, than while It's obvious that it's a knock off it's still my original piece.



Belial didn't "render" squat. He took Peter's original illustration and Photoshopped the watermarks out and then went on to color it. Then he goes on trying to convince people at that site that "it was drawn by hand and the actual drawing took a few days to do, while the coloring took around 3 hours." All of which is a big fat lie except the coloring part.

If somebody takes one of my b&w pieces and colors it, it doesn't all of sudden become their art. It's still mine...they just colored MY art. And what difference does it make whether the art is on a site that allows anyone to look at it? Tons of well known artists have their works up at various sites that everybody can look at, doesn't mean I have the right to go to a Frazetta piece that's online, Photoshop out his signature along with any watermarks he might have on the image and dub it one of my own.
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So how do folks who do this kind of thing sleep at night?

I know a wake up at night sometimes, realizing that the woman in the white car did have the right-of-way at that stop sign. But I'm sensitive, I guess.
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well not to nit pick (though that is what the lawyers will do) it seems he's done at least some of it by hand around on the bottom. That makes it his own. NOT BY MUCH, but still I believe might hold up in court. Also what makes this more mulitfacted, is the fact that he found this piece on a website that allows anyone to take a look. If I go to a museum and render a drawing almost exactly as a dali, than while It's obvious that it's a knock off it's still my original piece.



The biggest part of the problem is he didn't give Peter credit. Even when you do your own version of something, you still have to give credit to the original work. This guy claimed it completely as his own.

If he had said something like, "Original work done by Peter Bradley" he may be OK, if he then explained what he did and how he did it on top of giving credit to Peter, he would have been OK.

However he didn't, he claimed it all as his own. That is illegal.
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Schweinhund! THIEVING MR BRADLEY'S WORK!!!!
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Get out the tar and feathers! It a shame that people in this world try to pass off some one else's work as their own, and its a down right stupid thing to do, especially with all ways now days to verify various works.

Plagiarizing is plagiarizing, if you don't quote or acknowledge the source, its wrong.
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It would have been more interesting had he taken a photograph...
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