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I know the Trolls said that we could order this during the $10.00 CRAZY SALE. Has anybody gotten DB3 Deeper Darkness yet? The series has been stellar so far, so I'm really looking forward to this mod.

If you have the mod, speak up so we can hear about the goodness!

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I have it. I have not thoroughly read it, just the intro stuff, a couple of the encounters, and the new monsters.

The Thule are some nasty evil creatures to really mess up a PC's life. Lots of evil CK ideas with those guys, besides what Casey has done in the mod.

Decent write up of their background/ecology too.

I also like the C&C write up of the MArgoyle and the War Ogres.

I should finish reading through it tonight or tomorrow.
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My copy arrived today, and from a quick skim, the material itself looks great.

But, uhh, guys....more microscopic maps? What is the deal with the tiny maps!?

There are only three level maps to this module. I can't fathom why they aren't full-page sized, two of which could be inside the front and back covers.

If this, for some reason, raises the production cost of the module past a target point, then how about some free downloads so we can print them out at a functional size?

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Joe Mac wrote:
My copy arrived today, and from a quick skim, the material itself looks great.

But, uhh, guys....more microscopic maps? What is the deal with the tiny maps!?

There are only three level maps to this module. I can't fathom why they aren't full-page sized, two of which could be inside the front and back covers.

If this, for some reason, raises the production cost of the module past a target point, then how about some free downloads so we can print them out at a functional size?

Its a little bit of a hassle, but scan, enlarge, and then crop and print works pretty well.
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Well....I don't have access to a scanner, but even if I did, there's no reason there should be any such hassle.

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Looking at the material as presented, it seems as if TLG had to have them as smaller maps. DB3 is 24 pages long, which is probably a standard format. If the page count was increased a few pages then the production cost of rthe module may have to been increased. Instead of having that, as much material as can be is crammed into 24 standard pages. Unfortunately that means smaller maps. I have no idea if this is the actual case, but is seems like this senario could be likely.

Personally, as for the maps there is no hard-core detail to them. No interior details, just basic premise with location and size as reference. As a CK, even if you botch drawing maps for your players, whose to know the difference?

If you need bigger maps, there is always a photo copy place to enlarge them. Probably pretty cheap to do to.

Just some thoughts.

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Joe Mac wrote:
Well....I don't have access to a scanner, but even if I did, there's no reason there should be any such hassle.

The Trolls know many of us board members really like our maps. If they could make bigger ones that are full page without increasing costs they would.

This is because we also like the "price point" of C&C products.
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The module prices are uniquely low, for these days, but I'd gladly pay a few dollars more for maps printed on the insides of the covers.

I'm going to buy every C&C module that emerges, regardless -- but I'm not buying any excuse for 3" diameter maps. If that's what I'm to be stuck with, due to a production cost issue of some sort, I'd appreciate some love in the form of map downloads...I'll pay for the printer ink.

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Well the one I have for the Haunted Highlands was free off their main website. As far as I know it is still there. Plus a couple of other maps.

Its full color, though. Not a simple B/W.
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Please make the maps from DB3 available for download, guys. They really are unacceptably small.

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Post by serleran »

I have heard numerous concerns about the maps. Some do not like the quality, and others the size. I, personally, have no issue because I just ignore the maps anyway (sorry, I just like making my own) so I don't have an opinion, other than: TLG should do what NG has done in the past: make free web enhancement stuff for their modules, protected by some password or something. This could include "production level maps" in that the version used for layout could be included as a part of the package. I don't know if that would cost anything (don't know if TLG has to pay for every use of art, or if they get X "uses" or whatever) but if it makes the fans happy, and can be done without much effort (I bet Peter has all the maps on his PC), and it doesn't hurt TLG... then why not? It can only make things better!

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I just finally saw the printed version myself this weekend at Sooner Con and the maps are pretty small (Because there are more words and written content in this book than the standard 24 page modue).

My word count was a little big for the 24 page format, though we aren't as restricted to the format/size (ok we are but not for the next couple DB series books). I'll get on the horn with Peter and the fellas and see if we can't get a download put up with the maps from DB 2 and 3 at a larger size.

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Bowbe wrote:
I'll get on the horn with Peter and the fellas and see if we can't get a download put up with the maps from DB 2 and 3 at a larger size.

Little things like this are great value-added content...

I like to use modules for online gaming and having maps already in electronic format works great... plus those with graphic software can add or subtract to make it "just right" for their own games
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Re: Maps

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Bowbe wrote:
I just finally saw the printed version myself this weekend at Sooner Con and the maps are pretty small (Because there are more words and written content in this book than the standard 24 page modue).

My word count was a little big for the 24 page format, though we aren't as restricted to the format/size (ok we are but not for the next couple DB series books). I'll get on the horn with Peter and the fellas and see if we can't get a download put up with the maps from DB 2 and 3 at a larger size.

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Bowbe wrote:
I'll get on the horn with Peter and the fellas and see if we can't get a download put up with the maps from DB 2 and 3 at a larger size.

Case

That would be really cool! Thanks!

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Post by Bowbe »

I'll do what I can.

Warning: It won't be this week as the fellas are going to Lake Geneva this weekend.

Family events (a cousin's graduation party) and the price of Gas have sorta left me bent for my opportunity to make it this year.

Give it a couple weeks and we should see some action.

Thanks

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Re: Maps

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Bowbe wrote:
I'll get on the horn with Peter and the fellas and see if we can't get a download put up with the maps from DB 2 and 3 at a larger size.

Case

Sweeeet, thanks. And I do like your taste in dungeon-crawl-bloodbaths...

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And I do like your taste in dungeon-crawl-bloodbaths...

Though your taste in cuisine leave a bit to be desired. Frumunda Cheese Omlette? *shudder*

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