Bergholt News

Troll Lord · Post by **Troll Lord** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:38 am

Well hell's bells. So Rhu mentions something about an extended Index for the Codex that used to be on the webpage. I started looking for this and after some digging in old files I found it . . .

a side note, all our old computers were trashed long ago, the ones that the this stuff was entered in on. We moved the data to CD Roms, in no particularly good fashion. There are about a hundred of these things. Jason (breakdaddy) informs me about a year ago that the data on those will fade. So we've been slowly moving it off and over to Externals. But this has caused even more chaos and many files have ended up in strange places. Add to that that Davis and I had a superior way of naming files (i just looked at two of davis' that said Shit 1 and Shit 2) and you have a real archival mess

. . . but this made me run across some of Davis' old files. I began looking through them for the Inzae updates we want to do and I found quite a few. After several hours of bleary eyed searching it struck me that we were still missing the 2nd half to Bergholt: By Shadow of Night. This large advetnure had been finished back in 2002 but do to space restraints we cut it into 2 adventures. Delays, problems and hapenstances led to the 2nd part being put off and off, until it entered the dust bin of unfinished projects. As the months turned into years the 2nd half (which I had extracted from the whole thing way back when and saved in some exotic locale) was misplaced or misfiled. It vanished.

I've looked for this thing off and on for some time. And tonight, thanks to Rhu's urging and Danger Dwarf's query, I think I found it. It was hiding in plain site, attached to the original file for Bergholt . . .

let me explain. when davis turned that over it was TWO parts. an intro chapter of 40 odd pages and the adventure of another 80. we cut the adventure in two and kept the intro, making the 80 page book we were going to publish as Bergholt Part 1...which really consisted of part one and part of part 2, making the second part of part 2 actually a third part which we called part 2 because the adventure book we were publishing was called part 1.
So anyway. I look at all these files and they are each called part 2, naturally i assume that it is the part 2 of part 1 the publishing book and only take cursey look at them. Tonight I stumbled on a bunch of these part 2 files, six to be exact. They were dated and next to 4 copies of part 1. I thought, okay this is @)*@^#)*@ up. So open one after the other and they all lead to disappointment as they were edited versions of the one I cut in half. BUT strangely enough about mid way one of the files was the original 80+ pages long. I thought, that's odd and looked for the part 1 intro material. It wasn't there, so I broke out my copy of Bergholt and started cross referencing stuff. This took some time as the numbering system had changed. But I stumbled onn some sections that were not in the published book and then the whole ending of 30+ pages.

I found it!!!! Sweet news! I was very excited and started to call all my friends but realized that 1) I don't have any and 2) it was kind of late. LOL

I tried to call Davis but he didn't answer. I'll have him look at the files again.

But this means we can look at doing the original Bergholt, complete and whole. I'm mulling a boxed set in my head already.

Hopefully I'm right and this will be the whole thing, but Davis will have to let me know.

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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:29 am

Now THAT is jim-dandy news. Berholt is great! I'd love to se this done up right for C&C. Oh man would that be rockin.

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cinderblock · Post by **cinderblock** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:32 pm

Amazing what you find after a little tidying huh? I'm going through that right now as I ready myself to move. Who'd a thunk you could build up so much stuff, eh?

Maliki · Post by **Maliki** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:47 pm

Omote wrote:
Now THAT is jim-dandy news. Berholt is great! I'd love to se this done up right for C&C. Oh man would that be rockin.

-O

+1
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moriarty777 · Post by **moriarty777** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:17 pm

That would be some wicked kind of awesome right there man!

I was just looking through Part I the other night...

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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:14 pm

Great find!!
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:47 am

Nice. I loved Bergholt and wanted to see the next part in the series.
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Troll Lord · Post by **Troll Lord** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:09 am

Davis and I had a long talk about Inzae before he bugged off for Candy land for Thanksgiving. We are thinkging that a boxed set of Bergholt, with a small world book for the inner world, a world map and the like is the route to go.

Though I like the hardback book approach, the inclusion of maps and the cost factor are always heavy weights!

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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:33 am

Troll Lord wrote:
Davis and I had a long talk about Inzae before he bugged off for Candy land for Thanksgiving. We are thinkging that a boxed set of Bergholt, with a small world book for the inner world, a world map and the like is the route to go.

Though I like the hardback book approach, the inclusion of maps and the cost factor are always heavy weights!

Steve

Anything that gets me more maps, presumably done by Peter, is a good decision in my book. I am not a good one to judge by, I am something of a map addict.

One request, a B/W players version of the main map, at least as a PDF to print out and draw on over and over again. Then again I would love such maps from all of the products.
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:40 pm

Box Set. Bergholt. Bonus.

Ring it up Steverino.

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Troll Lord · Post by **Troll Lord** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:42 pm

I found the cover to the next book (never completed). Magerholt? I can't remember the city, i'll see if i can't get it in a simple file format and get Peter to post it. It is one of Jason' BEST pictures.

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:09 am

The complete Bergholt would be welcome.
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dachda · Post by **dachda** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:13 am

serleran wrote:
The complete Bergholt would be welcome.

Indubitably.
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:22 am

Troll Lord wrote:
Davis and I had a long talk about Inzae before he bugged off for Candy land for Thanksgiving. We are thinkging that a boxed set of Bergholt, with a small world book for the inner world, a world map and the like is the route to go.

Though I like the hardback book approach, the inclusion of maps and the cost factor are always heavy weights!

Steve

Heh, I was about to say, "I'll take it any way!" - and then remembered Kim, BD, DD, FDGs and other "funny men" are always lurking here on these forums . . so, (choosing my words carefully) . .

Either way of producing this product would be satisfactory and I'm looking forward to buying it.

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skathros · Post by **skathros** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:17 am

Troll Lord wrote:
Shit 1 and Shit 2

At least you got your shit in order

maasenstodt · Post by **maasenstodt** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:47 am

Would it be fair to say that this box set won't be available until after the CKG and the "A" series are finished? Regardless, next to the Haunted Highlands box set/folio, I don't think there's anything I'm anticipating more.
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MacLeod · Post by **MacLeod** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:29 pm

Troll Lord wrote:
Add to that that Davis and I had a superior way of naming files (i just looked at two of davis' that said Shit 1 and Shit 2) and you have a real archival mess

This alone warrants me staying a fan of TLG for the rest of my life.
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Troll Lord · Post by **Troll Lord** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:35 am

MacLeod wrote:
This alone warrants me staying a fan of TLG for the rest of my life.

LOL ITS MADNESS!!!!

We have some Bergholt news. The box set will be set up much like the Harvesters, Tainted Lands and similar box sets. It will be a fully functional game of C&C, with rules, dice, setting, characters sheets etc. So when you pick it up you need buy nothing else. Davis is of course working on the CKG and I told him doesn't get paid for anything else (except for A series books) until the CKG is finished. This motivated him to stop working on the 432 ancillary projects he was working on.

I do not have a release date for this puppy. But definitely after the CKG.

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:22 pm

About time. Bergholt misses us.
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moriarty777 · Post by **moriarty777** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:23 pm

Is it just me or is TLG undergoing a Box Set Renaissance?

I like box sets though they aren't my favorite medium. I think the notion is cool to see a complete sandbox C&C game and adventure but at the same time, I still have to wrap my head around it. That said, more dice is always pretty cool even if they just end up in my treasure chest of dice.

Some people use a Crown Royal bag (at least up here in Canada) -- I use a wooden treasure chest!

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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:58 pm

Bump for maximum awesomeness. With all of this new Aihrde talk going on, there needed to be a little bumpin' action for this proposed box set that just could be simply amazing. Bergholt was a gem of the d20 supplements. Some of the best stuff TLG ever put out me thinks.

Crna Ruk baby!

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Piperdog · Post by **Piperdog** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:08 pm

I would like to see a whole bunch of Inzae stuff. Really like the gritty, warhammerish feel. I am hoping this area gets some attention after the CKG and the Fourth Crusade.
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