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Lobo316
Red Cap
Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:03 am Posts: 351
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 Oozes and AC
So, I am noticing that certain oozes (the black pudding and the gray ooze) have really low ACs (3 and 5, respectivley). However, when looking at the D&D versions (2e) they ACs were higher (all things being equal). The Gray, for example, should conver to roughly a 12, and the black pudding should be around a 14.
How are folks handing oozes in thier games as far as AC's go? I guess I can see why they are easy to hit, but a 5? Really? or a 3? I guess I'm just not sure where these numbers come from.
And how do you attack any ooze that has a PC engulfed? I was going with attack as normal, if you miss by more than 4, you have a chance of hitting the PC, but I'm thinking that maybe it would be better to simply have the engulfed target suffer half of any and all damage from crushing, stabbing or hacking attacks on the ooze (so the best bet would be fire or something, just held up to the ooze).
Curious to hear some feedback on this one.
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| Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:07 pm |
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Arduin
Lore Drake
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:12 pm Posts: 1255 Location: California
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 Re: Oozes and AC
I always thought that those were 1st Edition type AC's and converted accordingly.
_________________ Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill
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| Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:33 pm |
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Relaxo
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 2558
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 Re: Oozes and AC
Wild guess here, but perhaps the really good AC is because the thing is so squishy and hard to damage, so rather than pumping up the HP, this abstraction covers it. edit: if you meant in C&C the AC is 3, then it's just that easy to hit, like the side of a barn. I think the Gelatinous cube has a single digit AC, but also a +10 to hide, so because it's clear, it's hard to see until someone stumbles into it, then it's like, "oh look a giant frickin' cube of jelly!" and then since you know where it is, and its the size of the whole hallway, it's pretty hard to miss. or something. 
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| Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:35 am |
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Sir Ironside
Lore Drake
Joined: Sat May 02, 2009 7:00 am Posts: 1278
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 Re: Oozes and AC
As he slowly dissolves. 
_________________ "Paranoia is just another word for ignorance." - Hunter S. Thompson
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| Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:42 am |
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Arduin
Lore Drake
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:12 pm Posts: 1255 Location: California
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 Re: Oozes and AC
If I remember correctly, I lost my very 1st PC to a "cube". 
_________________ Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill
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| Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:18 am |
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Lobo316
Red Cap
Joined: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:03 am Posts: 351
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 Re: Oozes and AC
Ahh...memories...hmmm...that gives me an idea (off to the forums).... There...that's done! Thanks for the inspiration! viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12157
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| Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:28 am |
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serleran
Mogrl
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 11941
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 Re: Oozes and AC
It is easy to hit an ooze, but in some cases... its a bad idea to. It encourages idiocy to try to beat up something that can, 1) get more powerful for it, and 2) dissolve or eat you whenever you touch it.
_________________ ------------ "We think we understand the rules when we become adults, but what we really experience is a narrowing of the imagination." -- David Lynch
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| Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:25 am |
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Go0gleplex
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Fri May 30, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 2464 Location: Keizer, OR
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 Re: Oozes and AC
Ooze isn't worried about dodging...only eating. And you are food. *evil grin*
_________________ The obvious will trip you up FAR more than the Obscure! Baron Grignak Hammerhand, High Warden of the C&C Society
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| Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:29 am |
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