Monk Fast Movement

[dgrm44]

If I understand the rules correctly, a Monk can move 35ft at first level regardless of race?
So a dwarf (20ft base mv) monk will get a much better bonus from this ability than a human (30ft base mv).
Correct?

[Treebore]

As written, yes. I reinterpret that to mean any race gets a 5 foot bonus above their race's base move.

[Buttmonkey]

Yes. I run it RAW, so even shorties move incredibly fast simply because it is cool.

[Relaxo]

I'm with Tree, that it's meant to be +5 feet. But the way it's worded is all are at the faster rate.

[Arduin]

Yes. I run it RAW, so even shorties move incredibly fast simply because it is cool.

Although I don't think it was meant to be 35 for all, I don't think any harm will come of doing it per RAW.

[Dracyian]

Yes. I run it RAW, so even shorties move incredibly fast simply because it is cool.

Just imagine how many steps a halfling or a gnome would have to take to move 30 feet in a round? They would either be replacing pants on a weekly basis or invest in some damn nice magic pants that don't wear out. And what about the chaffing?

[Buttmonkey]

Yes. I run it RAW, so even shorties move incredibly fast simply because it is cool.

Just imagine how many steps a halfling or a gnome would have to take to move 30 feet in a round? They would either be replacing pants on a weekly basis or invest in some damn nice magic pants that don't wear out. And what about the chaffing?

Oh, that's not a problem for halflings at all. Their hairy thighs prevent chafing. Hobbits are furry down low for a reason. Now, gnomes are screwed. They can go that fast, but they have to make a constitution SIEGE check to avoid friction damage. At high levels, a gnome is likely to set her clothes on fire that way.

[Dracyian]

Yes. I run it RAW, so even shorties move incredibly fast simply because it is cool.

Just imagine how many steps a halfling or a gnome would have to take to move 30 feet in a round? They would either be replacing pants on a weekly basis or invest in some damn nice magic pants that don't wear out. And what about the chaffing?

Oh, that's not a problem for halflings at all. Their hairy thighs prevent chafing. Hobbits are furry down low for a reason. Now, gnomes are screwed. They can go that fast, but they have to make a constitution SIEGE check to avoid friction damage. At high levels, a gnome is likely to set her clothes on fire that way.

I forgot about this and just laughed very hard, think I might do a gnome monk in the next campaign

[Zudrak]

Yes. I run it RAW, so even shorties move incredibly fast simply because it is cool.

Just imagine how many steps a halfling or a gnome would have to take to move 30 feet in a round? They would either be replacing pants on a weekly basis or invest in some damn nice magic pants that don't wear out. And what about the chaffing?

Oh, that's not a problem for halflings at all. Their hairy thighs prevent chafing. Hobbits are furry down low for a reason. Now, gnomes are screwed. They can go that fast, but they have to make a constitution SIEGE check to avoid friction damage. At high levels, a gnome is likely to set her clothes on fire that way.

I forgot about this and just laughed very hard, think I might do a gnome monk in the next campaign

Please name him/her Spee D.

[Dracyian]

Yes. I run it RAW, so even shorties move incredibly fast simply because it is cool.

Just imagine how many steps a halfling or a gnome would have to take to move 30 feet in a round? They would either be replacing pants on a weekly basis or invest in some damn nice magic pants that don't wear out. And what about the chaffing?

Oh, that's not a problem for halflings at all. Their hairy thighs prevent chafing. Hobbits are furry down low for a reason. Now, gnomes are screwed. They can go that fast, but they have to make a constitution SIEGE check to avoid friction damage. At high levels, a gnome is likely to set her clothes on fire that way.

I forgot about this and just laughed very hard, think I might do a gnome monk in the next campaign

Please name him/her Spee D.

She'll go by Dee which is will be short for Spee D muahahaha

[Lurker]

Should it be Spee Dee, or Spee Doo ?

[Arduin]

Yes. I run it RAW, so even shorties move incredibly fast simply because it is cool.

Just imagine how many steps a halfling or a gnome would have to take to move 30 feet in a round? They would either be replacing pants on a weekly basis or invest in some damn nice magic pants that don't wear out. And what about the chaffing?

Oh, that's not a problem for halflings at all. Their hairy thighs prevent chafing. Hobbits are furry down low for a reason. Now, gnomes are screwed. They can go that fast, but they have to make a constitution SIEGE check to avoid friction damage. At high levels, a gnome is likely to set her clothes on fire that way.

I forgot about this and just laughed very hard, think I might do a gnome monk in the next campaign

Knowing gnomes he/she will invent some type of friction reducing agent to put on the inside of the thighs. Probably made of stuff like saltpeter, charcoal and sulfur...


What could go wrong?

[Dracyian]

Yes. I run it RAW, so even shorties move incredibly fast simply because it is cool.

Just imagine how many steps a halfling or a gnome would have to take to move 30 feet in a round? They would either be replacing pants on a weekly basis or invest in some damn nice magic pants that don't wear out. And what about the chaffing?

Oh, that's not a problem for halflings at all. Their hairy thighs prevent chafing. Hobbits are furry down low for a reason. Now, gnomes are screwed. They can go that fast, but they have to make a constitution SIEGE check to avoid friction damage. At high levels, a gnome is likely to set her clothes on fire that way.

I forgot about this and just laughed very hard, think I might do a gnome monk in the next campaign

Knowing gnomes he/she will invent some type of friction reducing agent to put on the inside of the thighs. Probably made of stuff like saltpeter, charcoal and sulfur...


What could go wrong?

Gnomish ingenuity at its finest, i'm gonna put astro boy to shame with friction induced rocket perpultion

[serleran]

My first C&C character was a halfling druid-monk. He rode a war boar because the Castle Keeper decided the natural speed of the halfling would be problematic.

I disagree.

However, I find dwarf monks more interesting.

[Dracyian]

My first C&C character was a halfling druid-monk. He rode a war boar because the Castle Keeper decided the natural speed of the halfling would be problematic.

I disagree.

However, I find dwarf monks more interesting.

All these good intriguing thoughts

[Captain_K]

If its bonus to base move, what happens when they get boots of speed???

[Captain_K]

Oh for what its worth, here are some move by heights for bi-peds:
Average
Creature Height (ft) Move (ft/rd)
Ave Dwarf 4.50 29
Ave Gnome 4.08 29
Ave Hobbit 3.75 28
Shortest Dwarf 3.83 28
Shortest Gnome 3.50 28
Shortest Hobbit 3.00 27
Tallest Human 6.67 32

This uses all creatures not pegged at 20 feet per round, but all moves by height for others, giants, humans, etc, then extrapolates down. In this way a short elf is just as fast as a tall dwarf... now you may not like this approach but it attempts to use height mechanics... which is not totally accurate either, but another way to look at it.. heck a rabbit has wee little legs.. can't catch that on foot!

[Captain_K]

my house rule is short folks move at 25' and dwarves are M not S. Monk move is on top of base move for any race. A Titan Monk is a really fast dude!

[Dracyian]

my house rule is short folks move at 25' and dwarves are M not S. Monk move is on top of base move for any race. A Titan Monk is a really fast dude!

There are terrifying rumors that Seskis has used Monk Giants in his games before... I'm half wanting and half never wanting my dwarf monk/cleric to meet one

[Captain_K]

Wow, here's logic for you, monk move "must" be added to your based move or these giant and titan monks would all learn to run slower in monk school

[Arduin]

Wow, here's logic for you, monk move "must" be added to your based move or these giant and titan monks would all learn to run slower in monk school

Here's better logic. C&C PC classes were NOT designed for use by Titans and giants.

[Captain_K]

Don't be such a stick in the mud, the little silly yellow face should have conveyed some level of humor, but it is still a valid point to help defend the position that monk increased move is a "delta" on top of base movement, which based on this line of input, seems to be the way most folks do it.

[Arduin]

Don't be such a stick in the mud, the little silly yellow face should have conveyed some level of humor,

Apparently you missed mine.

[Captain_K]

Touché !!!

[ssfsx17]

Just imagine how many steps a halfling or a gnome would have to take to move 30 feet in a round? They would either be replacing pants on a weekly basis or invest in some damn nice magic pants that don't wear out. And what about the chaffing?

That's why Monks wear loose-fitting pants, loose martial arts pants, or wear nothing but a thong.

But on a more serious note - I rule that Monks get to choose either their racial movement or the Monk's fast movement, whichever is better for them. They need all the help they can get as a result of having such low AC for a front-line class. And they always need more positive incentives for that sweet multiclass combo of Monk/Wizard.

[Buttmonkey]

I always give C&C monks +1 to their AC compared to the RAW. It drives me nuts that a 1st level specialist in hand-to-hand combat has the same base AC as a nerdy-as-hell wizard.

[Dracyian]

Just imagine how many steps a halfling or a gnome would have to take to move 30 feet in a round? They would either be replacing pants on a weekly basis or invest in some damn nice magic pants that don't wear out. And what about the chaffing?

That's why Monks wear loose-fitting pants, loose martial arts pants, or wear nothing but a thong.

But on a more serious note - I rule that Monks get to choose either their racial movement or the Monk's fast movement, whichever is better for them. They need all the help they can get as a result of having such low AC for a front-line class. And they always need more positive incentives for that sweet multiclass combo of Monk/Wizard.

Well i'm currently playing a Cleric/monk wearing white mage robes and carrying a hammer of Thor so that part is covered however the way the class and a half is written for monks I currently don't have that ability, might get it at latter level as our CK has adjuncts in his game . Never thought about doing a monk/wizard brings new imagery to the flaming fist

[Captain_K]

I've got a monk Illusionist in our game right now... very interesting dude. Human by the way, damn blind ass bastard in the dark (said the dwarf subterranean ranger).

[Dracyian]

Illusionist Monk, that is fantastic, I think Monk is a great class to pair up with especially when your campaign has little magical items and takes a while to gain money

[serleran]

My last PC was combination of monk, barbarian, and cavalier. I wanted the inspire and intimidate abilities but the unarmed/armored aspects of the monk. Very effective in combat, close up. Useless at range... until he learned he could fit in a catapult.