Notes "5" and "6" for Weapons Table

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Notes "5" and "6" for Weapons Table

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In the 6th Printing PHB, there are two notes on the Weapons Table (pp62-63) that cause confusion for me:

"5 This weapon is designed to disarm opponents. Anyone proficient in this weapon’s
use can attempt to disarm an opponent as described in Combat Maneuvers but
with a +3 to their roll.
6 This weapon can be used for melee, to disarm or overbearing. The wielder
must decide beforehand which attack will be used. In the case of disarming and
overbearing, use normal attack procedures but add +3 to the to hit roll."

Note 5 corresponds to the weapon called "sleeve tangler". Note 6 corresponds to nothing.

Question 1: What's a sleeve tangler? Does anyone know where there is a picture of this item?

Question 2: Does note 6 correspond to something but there was a misprint or other kind of error?

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Hello

I think a sleeve tangler was used by the police in Japan to entangle a samurai or anyone else wearing robes, the weapon was not used to cause injury but to detain them. if you google or wiki it there should be a picture somewhere.

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If I recall correctly, notation #6 was in previous versions of the PHB attached to the Sword, Hook (another weapon of eastern origin).

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I once provided a few documents that contained illustrations of all the weapons and armor of the PHB plus a brief, non-historian, description. I might be able to find them again.

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ChaosImp wrote:Hello

I think a sleeve tangler was used by the police in Japan to entangle a samurai or anyone else wearing robes, the weapon was not used to cause injury but to detain them. if you google or wiki it there should be a picture somewhere.

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It is listed as doing 1d10 damage. I'll google it, good thinking.

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No luck on Google.

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Here's a discussion from awhile ago that may be of interest to you regarding the sleeve tangler:

viewtopic.php?p=55087#p55087

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