I'm going to be figuring my players experience between adventures today. I'm unable to find my old copies of Serleran's old
pre-generated xp list for M&T. Does anybody have the file? Thanks.
serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience list?
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Re: serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience lis
Are you talking about this? I'm sorry, I'm being lazy, but this comes from a pdf that's titled "Average XP Awards." I think think is his.
- Average XP Award / Monster [Pre-Treasure] (Values Rounded Up)
Aboleth – 1660
Achaierai – 702
Allip – 274
Ant, Giant (Worker) – 9
Ant, Giant (Soldier) – 38
Ant, Giant (Queen) – 193
Ankheg – 358
Ape, Great – 71
Arrowhawk, Small – 111
Arrowhawk, Medium – 582
Arrowhawk, Large – 3973
Assassin Vine, Small – 433
Assassin Vine, Medium – 470
Assassin Vine, Large – 520
Baboon – 9
Banshee – 941
Barghest, 1 HD – 28
Barghest, 2 HD – 61
Barghest, 3 HD – 131
Barghest, 4 HD – 252
Barghest, 5 HD – 473
Barghest, 6 HD – 702
Barghest, 7 HD – 1031
Barghest, 8 HD – 1463
Barghest, 9 HD – 2165
Basilisk – 438
Bear, Black – 81
Bear, Brown (Grizzly) – 442
Bear, Cave – 916
Behir – 3171
Belker – 1076
Bird of Prey, Small – 9
Bird of Prey, Large – 112
Blink Dog – 52
Boar, Wild (Razorback) – 33
Bodak – 2312
Bugbear – 61
Bulette – 2056
Cat – 3
Centaur – 182
Chimera – 1656
Cloaker – 552
Cockatrice – 278
Couatl – 2590
Crocodile (Alligator) – 71
Darkmantle – 23
Devourer – 6111
Dinosaur: Triceratops – 5327
Dinosaur: Tyrannosaurus – 7358
Dog (Coyote) – 10
Doppelganger – 192
Dragon, Black, Age 1 – 392
Dragon, Black, Age 2 – 1122
Dragon, Black, Age 3 – 2338
Dragon, Black, Age 4-6 – 8548
Dragon, Black, Age 7-9 – 20352
Dragon, Black, Age 10 – 33850
Dragon, Black, Age 11 – 57842
Dragon, Black, Age 12 – 81878
Dragon, Black, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 412
Dragon, Black, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1242
Dragon, Black, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2713
Dragon, Black, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 10248
Dragon, Black, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 25352
Dragon, Black, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 44050
Dragon, Black, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 75342
Dragon, Black, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 108278
Dragon, Blue, Age 1 – 1122
Dragon, Blue, Age 2 – 2338
Dragon, Blue, Age 3 – 5250
Dragon, Blue, Age 4-6 – 12782
Dragon, Blue, Age 7-9 – 23758
Dragon, Blue, Age 10 – 43528
Dragon, Blue, Age 11 – 58392
Dragon, Blue, Age 12 – 82378
Dragon, Blue, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1182
Dragon, Blue, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2588
Dragon, Blue, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 6150
Dragon, Blue, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 15782
Dragon, Blue, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 30258
Dragon, Blue, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 52928
Dragon, Blue, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 82892
Dragon, Blue, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 108578
Dragon, Green, Age 1 – 1062
Dragon, Green, Age 2 – 2463
Dragon, Green, Age 3 – 5550
Dragon, Green, Age 4-6 – 8123
Dragon, Green, Age 7-9 – 20852
Dragon, Green, Age 10 – 27758
Dragon, Green, Age 11 – 37950
Dragon, Green, Age 12 – 62442
Dragon, Green, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1242
Dragon, Green, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2713
Dragon, Green, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 6450
Dragon, Green, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 9823
Dragon, Green, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 24852
Dragon, Green, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 35558
Dragon, Green, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 49850
Dragon, Green, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 82442
Dragon, Red, Age 1 – 2663
Dragon, Red, Age 2 – 6000
Dragon, Red, Age 3 – 14632
Dragon, Red, Age 4-6 – 25758
Dragon, Red, Age 7-9 – 43128
Dragon, Red, Age 10 – 64492
Dragon, Red, Age 11 – 82900
Dragon, Red, Age 12 – 108152
Dragon, Red, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2788
Dragon, Red, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 6600
Dragon, Red, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 16882
Dragon, Red, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 30958
Dragon, Red, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 55728
Dragon, Red, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 81892
Dragon, Red, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 108800
Dragon, Red, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 168252
Dragon, White, Age 1 – 231
Dragon, White, Age 2 – 793
Dragon, White, Age 3 – 1681
Dragon, White, Age 4-6 – 7245
Dragon, White, Age 7-9 – 19013
Dragon, White, Age 10 – 31925
Dragon, White, Age 11 – 53081
Dragon, White, Age 12 – 79581
Dragon, White, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 241
Dragon, White, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 833
Dragon, White, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1861
Dragon, White, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 7995
Dragon, White, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 21713
Dragon, White, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 34425
Dragon, White, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 42281
Dragon, White, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 81981
Dragon, Brass, Age 1 – 1242
Dragon, Brass, Age 2 – 2588
Dragon, Brass, Age 3 – 5850
Dragon, Brass, Age 4-6 – 8973
Dragon, Brass, Age 7-9 – 15782
Dragon, Brass, Age 10 – 29658
Dragon, Brass, Age 11 – 49428
Dragon, Brass, Age 12 – 71492
Dragon, Brass, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1302
Dragon, Brass, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2838
Dragon, Brass, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 6750
Dragon, Brass, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 10673
Dragon, Brass, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 19532
Dragon, Brass, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 37458
Dragon, Brass, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 64128
Dragon, Brass, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 94692
Dragon, Bronze, Age 1 – 1302
Dragon, Bronze, Age 2 – 2913
Dragon, Bronze, Age 3 – 9498
Dragon, Bronze, Age 4-6 – 23952
Dragon, Bronze, Age 7-9 – 41550
Dragon, Bronze, Age 10 – 56042
Dragon, Bronze, Age 11 – 91878
Dragon, Bronze, Age 12 – 121258
Dragon, Bronze, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1362
Dragon, Bronze, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 3163
Dragon, Bronze, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 10773
Dragon, Bronze, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 27952
Dragon, Bronze, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 50050
Dragon, Bronze, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 71042
Dragon, Bronze, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 114978
Dragon, Bronze, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 154058
Dragon, Copper, Age 1 – 873
Dragon, Copper, Age 2 – 1931
Dragon, Copper, Age 3 – 4165
Dragon, Copper, Age 4-6 – 6830
Dragon, Copper, Age 7-9 – 20013
Dragon, Copper, Age 10 – 34025
Dragon, Copper, Age 11 – 57181
Dragon, Copper, Age 12 – 82881
Dragon, Copper, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 913
Dragon, Copper, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2056
Dragon, Copper, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 4565
Dragon, Copper, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 7580
Dragon, Copper, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 22713
Dragon, Copper, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 38525
Dragon, Copper, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 66381
Dragon, Copper, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 95281
Dragon, Gold, Age 1 – 2788
Dragon, Gold, Age 2 – 6300
Dragon, Gold, Age 3 – 15382
Dragon, Gold, Age 4-6 – 27058
Dragon, Gold, Age 7-9 – 50928
Dragon, Gold, Age 10 – 86878
Dragon, Gold, Age 11 – 126752
Dragon, Gold, Age 12 – 145782
Dragon, Gold, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2913
Dragon, Gold, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 7500
Dragon, Gold, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 22132
Dragon, Gold, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 50658
Dragon, Gold, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 113428
Dragon, Gold, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 146978
Dragon, Gold, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 192152
Dragon, Gold, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 230482
Dragon, Silver, Age 1 – 2049
Dragon, Silver, Age 2 – 5700
Dragon, Silver, Age 3 – 7779
Dragon, Silver, Age 4-6 – 18344
Dragon, Silver, Age 7-9 – 31950
Dragon, Silver, Age 10 – 54766
Dragon, Silver, Age 11 – 77994
Dragon, Silver, Age 12 – 103334
Dragon, Silver, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2174
Dragon, Silver, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 5850
Dragon, Silver, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 9054
Dragon, Silver, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 23496
Dragon, Silver, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 40450
Dragon, Silver, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 72266
Dragon, Silver, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 104934
Dragon, Silver, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 140234
Dragonne – 1246
Drider – 941
Dryad – 43
Dwarf – 12
Eagle, Giant – 148
Elemental, Any, 2 HD – 38
Elemental, Any, 8 HD – 1098
Elemental, Any, 16 HD – 5152
Elephant – 491
Elf, Non-Drow – 12
Elf, Drow, Male – 23
Elf, Drow, Female – 39
Ettercap – 333
Ettin – 1350
Fleshcrawler – 101
Frog, Giant – 24
Frost Worm – 7678
Fungus, Violet – 29
Gargoyle – 273
Gelatinous Cube – 218
Genie, Djinni – 1035
Genie, Efreeti – 3300
Ghast – 222
Ghost – 2200
Ghoul – 39
Giant, Cloud – 5882
Giant, Fire – 3098
Giant, Frost – 2495
Giant, Hill – 965
Giant, Stone – 1650
Giant, Storm – 9701
Gibbering Mouther – 232
Gnoll – 19
Gnome – 12
Goblin – 9
Golem, Clay – 1246
Golem, Flesh – 540
Golem, Iron – 9078
Golem, Stone – 3092
Gorgon – 1162
Green Slime – 192
Griffon – 540
Hag, Annis – 1076
Hag, Green – 1965
Hag, Night – 1648
Halfling – 12
Harpy – 81
Hellhound, 4 HD – 192
Hellhound, 8 HD – 1098
Herd Animal – 28
Hippogriff – 80
Hobgoblin – 13
Homunculus – 52
Horse, Heavy War – 148
Horse, Light War – 80
Horse, Riding – 28
Human – 10
Hydra, 5 HD – 533
Hydra, 6 HD – 792
Hydra, 7 HD – 1121
Hydra, 8 HD – 1433
Hydra, 9 HD – 2065
Hydra, 10 HD – 3300
Hydra, 11 HD – 4165
Hydra, 12 HD – 5148
Imp – 20
Invisible Stalker – 828
Jackal – 9
Jaculus – 18
Kobold – 8
Kraken (Leviathan) – 13001
Lamia – 1846
Lammasu – 990
Lich – 11858
Lion – 150
Lizard, Giant – 112
Lizardfolk – 28
Locathah – 28
Lycanthrope, Werebear – 896
Lycanthrope, Wereboar – 135
Lycanthrope, Wererat – 126
Lycanthrope, Weretiger – 432
Lycanthrope, Werewolf – 192
Lynx, Giant – 33
Manticore – 558
Medusa – 612
Merman / Mermaid – 15
Mimic – 806
Minotaur – 581
Mummy – 1039
Naga, Dark – 1565
Naga, Ghost – 232
Naga, Guardian – 4248
Naga, Spirit – 1965
Naga, Water – 761
Nightmare – 941
Nymph – 92
Ogre – 112
Ogre Mage – 313
Ooze, Black Pudding – 2050
Ooze, Gray – 100
Ooze, Ochre Jelly – 498
Orc – 10
Otyugh – 462
Owlbear – 298
Pegasus – 148
Phase Spider – 338
Pony – 28
Pony, War – 61
Prysmal Eye (Nonocculus) – 12938
Pseudodragon – 93
Purple Worm – 6938
Quasit – 24
Rakshasa – 1391
Rat, Giant – 4
Raven – 7
Remorhaz – 990
Roc – 5358
Roper – 1350
Rust Monster – 273
Sahuagin – 96
Salamander – 433
Satyr – 101
Screecher – 44
Shadow – 139
Shadow Mastiff – 162
Shambling Mound – 1368
Shark – 61
Shark, Magalodon – 3482
Skeleton – 17
Snake, Giant Constrictor – 372
Snake, Venomous – 12
Spectre – 979
Sphinx, Androsphinx – 4117
Sphinx, Criosphinx – 1450
Sphinx, Gynosphinx – 1027
Sphinx, Hieracosphinx – 1046
Spider, Small – 14
Spider, Medium – 93
Spider, Large – 353
Sprite, Grig – 28
Sprite, Nixie – 18
Sprite, Pixie – 38
Stirge – 19
Tavis (Worm) Wyrm – 71
Tick, Giant – 38
Tiger – 293
Titan – 10901
Toad, Giant – 98
Treant – 806
Troglodyte – 19
Troll – 492
Troll, River – 549
Troll, Hill – 1565
Unicorn – 308
Vampire – 2301
Wight – 224
Will-o’-Wisp – 1765
Wolf – 28
Wolf, Worg – 132
Wolf, Winter – 442
Wraith – 443
Wyvern – 859
Xorn – 1098
Yrthak – 4542
Zombie – 33
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Re: serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience lis
Things may have changed with "errata" updates -- I have not, and likely won't, make corrections.
And yes, that was/is mine.
And yes, that was/is mine.
Re: serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience lis
Many thanks to you, my friend.
Re: serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience lis
As noted, with the 4th print Monsters & Treasure, those numbers are no longer accurate. At the time Robert wrote that list, the Trolls had a guideline from Gary not to give out too much XP. The values were arbitrarily chosen with that guideline in mind. The 4th print now figures XP for creatures according to the XP rules at the beginning of the book instead of arbitrarily choosing a value. Despite this change, the XP values still adhere to Gary's guideline. It seems that for every creature in the book that was overvalued, there was a creature that was undervalued by a similar amount.
To figure the average XP for each creature, you need to know the average hit points of the creature. To determine the average hit points, multiply the hit dice times a number from the following list, based upon the die type. Round up the result as necessary.
d4 = 2.5
d6 = 3.5
d8 = 4.5
d10 = 5.5
d12 = 6.5
d20 = 10.5
For example, an average 2D8 hit die creature would have 9 hit points. A 3D8 hit die creature would have 13.5 hit points, so you'd round up to 14.
Once you determine the average hit points, figure XP normally, substituting the average hit points for the actual hit points.
To figure the average XP for each creature, you need to know the average hit points of the creature. To determine the average hit points, multiply the hit dice times a number from the following list, based upon the die type. Round up the result as necessary.
d4 = 2.5
d6 = 3.5
d8 = 4.5
d10 = 5.5
d12 = 6.5
d20 = 10.5
For example, an average 2D8 hit die creature would have 9 hit points. A 3D8 hit die creature would have 13.5 hit points, so you'd round up to 14.
Once you determine the average hit points, figure XP normally, substituting the average hit points for the actual hit points.
Re: serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience lis
As an adjunct to this discussion, figuring dragons using the values in the 4th print does work, with one exception. The values given in the book are for the dragon without dragon magic. If a dragon has dragon magic, the value is going to change by the amount of a Type I, Type II, and/or Type III special.
Since I promised it, and it might be applicable if only to figure out the XP values for dragon magic, here is a list of XP values for every creature in Monsters & Treasure. Beneath this are listed their specials, sorted by Type I, II, or III as well as explanatory notes where necessary.
Since I promised it, and it might be applicable if only to figure out the XP values for dragon magic, here is a list of XP values for every creature in Monsters & Treasure. Beneath this are listed their specials, sorted by Type I, II, or III as well as explanatory notes where necessary.