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zacharythefirst
Red Cap
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:00 am Posts: 233 Location: Madison County, IN
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 Erol Otus Art!
Check out the cover for Hackmaster Basic: EDIT: Crap, can't get the image to load. Here's a link: http://www.rpgblog2.com/2009/04/erol-ot ... aster.html_________________ RPG Blog 2: Gamer resources, news, reviews, and commentary, from the Old School to Small Press. Updated regularly!
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:16 am |
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DangerDwarf
Maukling
Joined: Sat May 27, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 5284 Location: East Texas
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Wowed on two fronts with this one!
1. Sweet cover.
2. Hack Master Basic?!?!? Hell Yeah!
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:20 am |
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Omote
Battle Stag
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 11558 Location: The fairest view in the park, Ohio.
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Neat. Hackmaster Basic comes out this summer, with HM5 sometime late this year. Still just as overly complciated though. *shrugs*
-O _________________ > Omote's Advanced C&C stuff < Duke Omote Landwehr, Holy Order of the FPQ ~ Prince of the Castles & Crusades Society
_________________ @-Duke Omote Landwehr, Holy Order of the FPQ ~ Prince of the Castles & Crusades Society-@ VAE VICTUS! >> Omote's Advanced C&C stuff <<
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:25 am |
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zacharythefirst
Red Cap
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:00 am Posts: 233 Location: Madison County, IN
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Yeah, HM4 wasn't my usual system of choice, but the Hackmaster Game Master's Guide is awesome. I end up using it for just about any fantasy game I run. Love the charts, tables, and items! _________________ RPG Blog 2: Gamer resources, news, reviews, and commentary, from the Old School to Small Press. Updated regularly!
_________________ Visit RPG Blog 2 Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world. Push off, and sitting well in order smite The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths Of all the western stars, until I die. -Tennyson
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:42 am |
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Omote
Battle Stag
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 11558 Location: The fairest view in the park, Ohio.
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I was really into Hackmaster when it came out. The whole concept was pretty cool, and even if you didn't like the tongue and cheek aspects of the writing, the game was still completely viable. Though after just one rather short-lived campaign, the weight of the endless rules became too much of a burden. We ended up arguing more then back in the 2nd Ed D&D days! The game is cool, but I just think that Hackmaster went to extremes with bloated rules and sourcebooks, so much so that it killed our chapter of the Hackmaster Players Association.
-O _________________ > Omote's Advanced C&C stuff < Duke Omote Landwehr, Holy Order of the FPQ ~ Prince of the Castles & Crusades Society
_________________ @-Duke Omote Landwehr, Holy Order of the FPQ ~ Prince of the Castles & Crusades Society-@ VAE VICTUS! >> Omote's Advanced C&C stuff <<
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:37 pm |
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Jyrdan Fairblade
Unkbartig
Joined: Thu May 11, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 947
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What an awesome cover.
I'm probably going to pick up Hackmaster Basic when it comes out - I liked HM4 okay, but am quite curious where they will go now.
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:57 pm |
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serleran
Mogrl
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 13824
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I'm just glad there won't be 8 monster manuals. _________________ If it matters, leave a message at the beep. Serl's Corner
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:00 pm |
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gideon_thorne
Maukling
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:00 am Posts: 6176
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Well, unfortunately, the work of Otus does for me now the same thing it did for me back in the day. Odd but not really personally inspiring. Different strokes and all. _________________ "We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven
Peter Bradley
_________________ "The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'No.' " ~Rorschach
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:03 pm |
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serleran
Mogrl
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 13824
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I like the outlandish abstract cartoon quality. Very nostalgic. _________________ If it matters, leave a message at the beep. Serl's Corner
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:28 pm |
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bighara
Ulthal
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 412
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The fact that he's riffing his own art from 1981 is pretty funny.
I dunno, for $19.99, I may hafta pick this up.
_________________ “Style is the perfection of a point of view.”
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:40 pm |
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Treebore
Mogrl
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 20660 Location: Arizona and St Louis
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If your doing it because your Erol Otis fans then you have a fair number of Goodman Games DCC's to go find. _________________ The Ruby Lord, Earl of the Society Next Con I am attending: http://www.neoncon.com/My House Rules: http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... llordgames
_________________ Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals. Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
Grand Knight Commander of the Society.
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:58 pm |
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Deogolf
Lore Drake
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 1548
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Yeah, I like his artwork - although some of it seems a bit "out there" at times. Don't think I'll ever play any HM. C&C and AD&D fit that bill just fine. Some of the HM covers do make me laugh, pretty crazy! _________________ Eulaliaaa!!! Give those rapscallions blood and vinegar, wot?! Be sure to check out Jim's artwork for sale: http://jimhollowayart.com/id5.html
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:42 pm |
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Maliki
Lore Drake
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 1523
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I never got into HM, but HM Basic, I may have to try. _________________ Never throw rocks at a man with a Vorpal Sword!
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:55 pm |
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Omote
Battle Stag
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 11558 Location: The fairest view in the park, Ohio.
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Bah! C&C Basic will be the better introduction game for sure. -O _________________ > Omote's Advanced C&C stuff < Duke Omote Landwehr, Holy Order of the FPQ ~ Prince of the Castles & Crusades Society
_________________ @-Duke Omote Landwehr, Holy Order of the FPQ ~ Prince of the Castles & Crusades Society-@ VAE VICTUS! >> Omote's Advanced C&C stuff <<
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:52 pm |
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Akrasia
Red Cap
Joined: Tue May 09, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 223
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Otus Rules!!! I'm getting HM Basic for that cover alone. _________________ While it is unlikely to interest most of you, here is my 'cunning' blog: http://dailyakrasia.blogspot.com/
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:41 pm |
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Relaxo
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 3350
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I feel stupid, I thought "Erol Otis Art" was latin, like Alea Iacta est.
how silly!
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:45 pm |
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Lord Dynel
Maukling
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 5842
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I might have to buy this on the power of Erol alone. The Power of Erol compels you!! _________________ LD's C&C creations - the witch, a half-ogre, skill and 0-level rules
_________________ LD's C&C creations - CL Checker, a witch class, the half-ogre, skills, and 0-level rules
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:50 pm |
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JediOre
Red Cap
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 340 Location: Missouri
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It seems the Trolls should employ Mr. Otis too.
[Not to take away from Peter's art. I find the thought of mixing two very different artistic takes would be great.]
_________________ In the words of my good friend Trevor, "Hey, put an arrow in that flying mummy! What could possibly happen?"
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:23 am |
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gideon_thorne
Maukling
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:00 am Posts: 6176
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The ubiquitous 'old school' style art is not what TLG is looking for. _________________ "We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven Peter Bradley
_________________ "The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'No.' " ~Rorschach
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:35 am |
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Lord Dynel
Maukling
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 5842
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I'm always complimenting other artists, JediOre, but yeah - that's not a know on Peter at all. There are some great artists out there, and TLG would only be better with their talent. _________________ LD's C&C creations - the witch, a half-ogre, skill and 0-level rules
_________________ LD's C&C creations - CL Checker, a witch class, the half-ogre, skills, and 0-level rules
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:36 am |
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Lord Dynel
Maukling
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 5842
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Oh well...can't win 'em all. I think it'd be neat if they used that style for an old-school dungeon crawl module or even a couple-part series. I think that'd be cool. Variety and all. _________________ LD's C&C creations - the witch, a half-ogre, skill and 0-level rules
_________________ LD's C&C creations - CL Checker, a witch class, the half-ogre, skills, and 0-level rules
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:41 am |
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Fat Dragon Games
Dragon Troll
Joined: Fri May 25, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 682
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I love Erol's art! I like a lot of styles, especially Jason Walton's stuff. Did you guys see his latest? This is absolutely awesome! _________________ Thomas A. Tullis Fat Dragon Games www.fatdragongames.comCastles & Crusades...more D&D than D&D.
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:43 am |
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Lord Dynel
Maukling
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 5842
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I hear ya, hoss! He is definitely becoming one of my favorite artists! For anyone who's interested, here is a link to a lot of his work. _________________ LD's C&C creations - the witch, a half-ogre, skill and 0-level rules
_________________ LD's C&C creations - CL Checker, a witch class, the half-ogre, skills, and 0-level rules
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:48 am |
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Omote
Battle Stag
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 11558 Location: The fairest view in the park, Ohio.
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Yeah Jason has some great stuff. I'm glad to see he is getting more art time with TLG now days.
-O _________________ > Omote's Advanced C&C stuff < Duke Omote Landwehr, Holy Order of the FPQ ~ Prince of the Castles & Crusades Society
_________________ @-Duke Omote Landwehr, Holy Order of the FPQ ~ Prince of the Castles & Crusades Society-@ VAE VICTUS! >> Omote's Advanced C&C stuff <<
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:49 am |
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gideon_thorne
Maukling
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:00 am Posts: 6176
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And since this seems to be turning into an art thread. Methinks it needs to go somewhere more topic appropriate. _________________ "We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven
Peter Bradley
_________________ "The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'No.' " ~Rorschach
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:58 am |
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tylermo
Greater Lore Drake
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 2579
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I'll have to check out the cover. I happen to like E.O.'s style. Mostly nostalgia. I remember playing the old early 80's basic and expert sets, before the mid 80's cover came along. Some would argue that the dragon(or whatever was on that printing) was better than E.O.'s earlier cover, but I disagree. Many other box covers come to mind...Star Frontiers. Oh wait, that was Larry Elmore. I got my original SF covers signed by him. WOuld love to have some signed by E.O. Getting back to Hackmaster. I was given a free copy(as many others were) by Jolly's crew at GenCon 07(?). I liked what they were trying to do, but I'm afraid it's a little too bogged down for me. Savage Worlds and C&C have kept me from playing overly-crunchy systems. That said, Jolly Blackburn and Erol Otus ROCK!!!
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:58 am |
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ATOM
Hlobane Orc
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:00 am Posts: 158
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Nice cover! Very nostalgic,
it is rather humourous that Erol Otis is paying a modern
tribute to his own original Artwork. _________________ ATOM's WEB Site Three Headed Troll Art Wurks
_________________ ATOM's CLASSIC D&D Art. ATOM's WEB Site

3-headed Blog
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:05 am |
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Lord Dynel
Maukling
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:00 am Posts: 5842
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I though it was very cool, myself. It's interesting looking at this cover and then looking at the old Basic Set. Very cool indeed. _________________ LD's C&C creations - the witch, a half-ogre, skill and 0-level rules
_________________ LD's C&C creations - CL Checker, a witch class, the half-ogre, skills, and 0-level rules
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:13 am |
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Akrasia
Red Cap
Joined: Tue May 09, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 223
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"Ubiquitous"?!? Man, I wish Otus's work was ubiquitous! Um, exactly what style art is TLG looking for? _________________ While it is unlikely to interest most of you, here is my 'cunning' blog: http://dailyakrasia.blogspot.com/
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:00 pm |
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Akrasia
Red Cap
Joined: Tue May 09, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 223
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Jason Walton's stuff is indeed very cool. One of my favourite fantasy artists these days is Peter Mullen. His style bears a family resemblance to Otus's work, but nonetheless manages to be unique. Here is a link to his online 'gallery': http://www.freewebs.com/mullenart/art.htm_________________ While it is unlikely to interest most of you, here is my 'cunning' blog: http://dailyakrasia.blogspot.com/
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:03 pm |
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