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Vendor - Client Relationship
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jaybird216
Lore Drake
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 1229 Location: The Troll Cave
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 Vendor - Client Relationship
I figured you might like this, Peter. Someone posted it at the freelancers' section on RPG.net. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSg ... r_embedded_________________ Jason Braun Art Monkey for Hire Three-Headed Troll Art Wurks
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Thu May 28, 2009 11:34 pm |
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gideon_thorne
Maukling
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:00 am Posts: 6176
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 Re: Vendor - Client Relationship
*smiles* I was just pondering making a sign I can hang at my art booth anywhere I set up.
"Money is the sincerest form of flattery. Artists love to be flattered. Flatter us a lot."
Sure, it's nice to hear various versions of 'attaboy' from people. But if folks like our work so much, buy something. _________________ "We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven
Peter Bradley
_________________ "The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'No.' " ~Rorschach
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Fri May 29, 2009 2:50 pm |
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serleran
Mogrl
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Price has to be reasonable. $50 for a print is not, unless you're some damn awful famous artist and its a limited number of them. _________________ If it matters, leave a message at the beep. Serl's Corner
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Fri May 29, 2009 4:24 pm |
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gideon_thorne
Maukling
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*chuckles* Dude, no one has more reasonable prices than I do. In fact, I get folks who express shock about how low my prices are. But that makes no difference when people seem to have no money. I get that, I really do. But, like the video above, I get frustrated when folks spend an hour talking to me, but don't buy anything. ^_^ Oh.. and $50 for a print is very reasonable, especially if its 16x20 or larger. Cause it costs more to make at that size. _________________ "We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven Peter Bradley
_________________ "The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'No.' " ~Rorschach
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Fri May 29, 2009 4:32 pm |
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jaybird216
Lore Drake
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 1229 Location: The Troll Cave
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Hence the Taco House/Filet debate, Serl. I bet those damn awful famous artists get it all the time. "But, Joe McNoName only charges $XX for an open edition print of the exact same size. It's the same thing!" _________________ Jason Braun Art Monkey for Hire Three-Headed Troll Art Wurks
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Fri May 29, 2009 4:36 pm |
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jaybird216
Lore Drake
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 1229 Location: The Troll Cave
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One of my co-workers here at the agency particularly liked "OK, we'll pay, but show us how you made it so that we can do it at home next time". We get that a lot. One client even bought a copy of Adobe Illustrator so that she could make her own ads/collateral, but calls us constantly with questions on how to use the software. I'm glad I went to school for 4 years _________________ Jason Braun Art Monkey for Hire Three-Headed Troll Art Wurks
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Fri May 29, 2009 4:44 pm |
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ATOM
Hlobane Orc
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:00 am Posts: 158
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Jeez! Sounds like you would need councelling yourself, after putting up with clients like that! _________________ ATOM's WEB Site Three Headed Troll Art Wurks
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Fri May 29, 2009 6:43 pm |
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jaybird216
Lore Drake
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 1229 Location: The Troll Cave
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Just a cuddle, Andrew. All I need is a cuddle. _________________ Jason Braun Art Monkey for Hire Three-Headed Troll Art Wurks
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Fri May 29, 2009 6:57 pm |
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marjasall
Skobbit
Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 19
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He's right. I've worked many many years for a few different printers in my life, in-house, and they charge alot. I've seen single 18x 24 prints go for $60 a print - and I'm talking just digital, which is typically cheaper than litho - and that $60 is just the printer's cost to the client. An artist could not mark that up any further and have any success selling it. So $50 from the artist is very reasonable for that size - especially if they hand-sign it. _________________ http://www.marjasall.com
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Sat May 30, 2009 2:11 am |
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gideon_thorne
Maukling
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:00 am Posts: 6176
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Course, the trick today is to get ones own 17x22 printer. _________________ "We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven Peter Bradley
_________________ "The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'No.' " ~Rorschach
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Sat May 30, 2009 2:44 am |
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serleran
Mogrl
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Well, if the print is larger than a wallet size, then naturally the price would be commensurate. That I was not arguing. However, if its some little thing, like a 6 x 9 or whatever... no, I won't be paying $50 for it, most likely, even if its color -- I'd better absolutely love it.
But, yeah, I do agree with supporting artists -- their best way to make money is by selling prints, or, so I hear. _________________ If it matters, leave a message at the beep. Serl's Corner
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Sat May 30, 2009 2:47 am |
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gideon_thorne
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serleran wrote: Well, if the print is larger than a wallet size, then naturally the price would be commensurate. That I was not arguing. However, if its some little thing, like a 6 x 9 or whatever... no, I won't be paying $50 for it, most likely, even if its color -- I'd better absolutely love it.
But, yeah, I do agree with supporting artists -- their best way to make money is by selling prints, or, so I hear.
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Its one of the better ways. But the best way for any artist to make money is in licensing. Shirts, mugs, postcards, ect. _________________ "We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven Peter Bradley
_________________ "The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'No.' " ~Rorschach
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Sat May 30, 2009 2:50 am |
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Omote
Battle Stag
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 7:00 am Posts: 11558 Location: The fairest view in the park, Ohio.
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Peter's prices are damn good, no doubt. BUT Pete, your originals are um, expensive. Which they have every right to be. But that always pushes them outside of my price range. *boo-boo lip*
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Sat May 30, 2009 4:16 am |
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gideon_thorne
Maukling
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:00 am Posts: 6176
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Well, that's why I do prints. That way most folks can afford them. Originals take time. In that case its a simple time = dollars equation. _________________ "We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven Peter Bradley
_________________ "The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'No.' " ~Rorschach
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Sat May 30, 2009 5:10 am |
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jaybird216
Lore Drake
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 1229 Location: The Troll Cave
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I still haven't received that cuddle. _________________ Jason Braun Art Monkey for Hire Three-Headed Troll Art Wurks
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Sat May 30, 2009 6:28 am |
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ATOM
Hlobane Orc
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:00 am Posts: 158
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One sweathy man cuddle coming right up! _________________ ATOM's WEB Site Three Headed Troll Art Wurks
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Sat May 30, 2009 6:58 am |
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marjasall
Skobbit
Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:00 am Posts: 19
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Ditto. If it's 6x9 for $50, it better be the original. _________________ http://www.marjasall.com
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