Vendor - Client Relationship
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I figured you might like this, Peter. Someone posted it at the freelancers' section on RPG.net.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSg ... r_embedded
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*smiles* I was just pondering making a sign I can hang at my art booth anywhere I set up.
"Money is the sincerest form of flattery. Artists love to be flattered. Flatter us a lot."
Sure, it's nice to hear various versions of 'attaboy' from people. But if folks like our work so much, buy something.
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"Money is the sincerest form of flattery. Artists love to be flattered. Flatter us a lot."
Sure, it's nice to hear various versions of 'attaboy' from people. But if folks like our work so much, buy something.
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serleran wrote:
Price has to be reasonable. $50 for a print is not, unless you're some damn awful famous artist and its a limited number of them.
*chuckles* Dude, no one has more reasonable prices than I do. In fact, I get folks who express shock about how low my prices are. But that makes no difference when people seem to have no money.
I get that, I really do. But, like the video above, I get frustrated when folks spend an hour talking to me, but don't buy anything. ^_^
Oh.. and $50 for a print is very reasonable, especially if its 16x20 or larger. Cause it costs more to make at that size.
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One of my co-workers here at the agency particularly liked "OK, we'll pay, but show us how you made it so that we can do it at home next time". We get that a lot. One client even bought a copy of Adobe Illustrator so that she could make her own ads/collateral, but calls us constantly with questions on how to use the software. I'm glad I went to school for 4 years
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jaybird216 wrote:
One of my co-workers here at the agency particularly liked "OK, we'll pay, but show us how you made it so that we can do it at home next time". We get that a lot. One client even bought a copy of Adobe Illustrator so that she could make her own ads/collateral, but calls us constantly with questions on how to use the software. I'm glad I went to school for 4 years
Jeez! Sounds like you would need councelling yourself, after putting up with clients like that!
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gideon_thorne wrote:
Oh.. and $50 for a print is very reasonable, especially if its 16x20 or larger. Cause it costs more to make at that size.
He's right. I've worked many many years for a few different printers in my life, in-house, and they charge alot. I've seen single 18x 24 prints go for $60 a print - and I'm talking just digital, which is typically cheaper than litho - and that $60 is just the printer's cost to the client. An artist could not mark that up any further and have any success selling it. So $50 from the artist is very reasonable for that size - especially if they hand-sign it.
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He's right. I've worked many many years for a few different printers in my life, in-house, and they charge alot. I've seen single 18x 24 prints go for $60 a print - and I'm talking just digital, which is typically cheaper than litho - and that $60 is just the printer's cost to the client. An artist could not mark that up any further and have any success selling it. So $50 from the artist is very reasonable for that size - especially if they hand-sign it.
Course, the trick today is to get ones own 17x22 printer.
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Well, if the print is larger than a wallet size, then naturally the price would be commensurate. That I was not arguing. However, if its some little thing, like a 6 x 9 or whatever... no, I won't be paying $50 for it, most likely, even if its color -- I'd better absolutely love it.
But, yeah, I do agree with supporting artists -- their best way to make money is by selling prints, or, so I hear.
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But, yeah, I do agree with supporting artists -- their best way to make money is by selling prints, or, so I hear.
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serleran wrote:
Well, if the print is larger than a wallet size, then naturally the price would be commensurate. That I was not arguing. However, if its some little thing, like a 6 x 9 or whatever... no, I won't be paying $50 for it, most likely, even if its color -- I'd better absolutely love it.
But, yeah, I do agree with supporting artists -- their best way to make money is by selling prints, or, so I hear.
Its one of the better ways. But the best way for any artist to make money is in licensing. Shirts, mugs, postcards, ect.
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Peter's prices are damn good, no doubt. BUT Pete, your originals are um, expensive. Which they have every right to be. But that always pushes them outside of my price range. *boo-boo lip*
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Peter's prices are damn good, no doubt. BUT Pete, your originals are um, expensive. Which they have every right to be. But that always pushes them outside of my price range. *boo-boo lip*
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Well, that's why I do prints. That way most folks can afford them. Originals take time. In that case its a simple time = dollars equation.
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serleran wrote:
However, if its some little thing, like a 6 x 9 or whatever... no, I won't be paying $50 for it, most likely, even if its color -- I'd better absolutely love it.
Ditto. If it's 6x9 for $50, it better be the original.
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