Troll Lord Games

<t>I like it, and would probably use it in tandem with C&C. They are that similar. The same guy did something called Project 74, aternate rules systems for D&D type games. Like a skill system that has a way to make the thief abilities available to everyone as skills and keep the thief best a...

These days, Nifft the Lean.

It sounds like 4e will be just fine for them, I fear.

The Arcanum a supplement for D&D? I suppose, but I ran it once as a game, and it was more fun all on its lonesome than most games where it is used for source material. IMO.

<t>Huh? It has been fine for me since I started going in there a week or so ago. I looked at most of the downloads, too. No problem.<br/> <br/> You are in Seattle? Have a game going? I don't, its almost all 3.5, or at least it has been. Don't know anybody that plays C&C, much less BRP, Ramlar, o...

Thread necromancy!

So they have a snazzed up second edition coming, and it sounds like they were listening to input from fans. And the site works now.

Thoughts?

HERETICAL THREAD.

As portrayed very colorfully in 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame', heh?

Still, guys, it was how would a thieves' guild get started, go from gangs to city wide organized crime.

Whatever.

<t>Sure, Treebore. It just didn't look organized in Rome right about that time, you know? Just rival gangs and so much chaos commerce was threatened to the extent that things were ready to collapse. In short, what Antony did created the unification that probably would lead to the formation of a guil...

<t>*shrug* I just thought that episode was a reasonable insight into how a fantasy-type thieves guild might begin. Power vacuum, lazy leadership, something gets started that would not be so easy to stop.<br/> <br/> It didn't strike me as something much related to real world organized crime. In the e...

<t>Sure, but I was thinking on lines of 'how would a thieves' guild get started? In 'Rome', there were numerous gangs; what Antony did basically legitimized them, ergo the start of a 'guild'. There are similarities to modern organized crime, but to be the same the maifa would have to be blatantly su...

Or pay the gangs off so as to cut your losses. Then they are sanctioned, essentially.

<t>In the thread on things we dislike in rpgs, several mentioned thieves' guilds and how they were unlikely. So, I saw something the other night that I would like to share.<br/> <br/> Have any of you seen Rome, the second season yet? In the second episode there is a very interesting sequence which i...

<t>And I think it's working. I occasionally post about BRP here (usually a comparison of some sort) and have only had one post that could be misconstrued as a negative reaction. Other forums have been much more hostile and derisive to the mention of other games or even differing styles of gaming. Th...

Going to get those strange new D5s?

Nice thought. A lot of colorful ideas for organizations in EPIC. In fact the game is pretty much a gold mine of useful concepts for any fantasy rpg.

Fine by me. And a relief.

<t>My idea for this was to take the careers chart from Barbarians of Lemuria and give at least one to each PC, and derive things he can do from the suggested skills listed under each, maybe a limited progression (as in, the career list is stuff picked up before the adventuring began). The skills gai...

Yeah, ergo no longer a threat to real rpgs (I hope).

Err, if you say so. My cat sometimes has what we refer to as 'barforamas'. Not once, not twice...

Good thing she's such a good cat otherwise.

<t>Could be the other way around, 'jrr'. Never saw a dog that was easier to deal with than cat. Don't hate dogs, but they are not in the same league as cats in any way. Basically slaves, kind of like WOTC fanboys. Cats just don't put up with a lot of crap, if they don't like you they let you know. B...

Hey, you don't even know what the concept IS.

Forget it. You already have all the answers, and I was wrong.

<t>I am going to do something similar, but there will be some backgrounds that won't logically have climbing. Not worried about that. Anyway, have them roll the first background (can't control the situation you are born in, right?). Then pick one or more. They won't be able to do everything.<br/> <b...

Thief is just a fantasy staple. As in 'Thief of Baghdad'. It doesn't really matter to me, all the PCs tend to be thieves anyway.

And my other questions?

The skills will need a little work to fit the Siege engine, but I am giving it serious consideration. Thanks.

<t>OK, I'll bite. I may indeed be making a mountain out of a molehill here. Link to the SRD document you downloaded?<br/> <br/> Just a couple other questions right now. How do you parcel out skills not on the list for the class? Say, if a fighter wants to be good at climbing or a wizard wants to use...

<t>Amen to that. I have gone to the game store and watched 3.5 games, and not joined in because I could see how very alien it was to what I wanted to play, and so never have played it. Heartburn city.<br/> <br/> I ran 3.0 up to 5th level when it came out, and found the system severely lacking anyway...

<t>Well, maybe they are self-destructing at that. This is neither fish nor fowl, not a tabletop rpg exactly, not a computer game exactly, not a miniatures game exactly, not a board game or card game or any other sort of game exactly. It apparently is an attempt to do all of the above simultaneously,...

jman, I was referring to 3.5, tetsnbn. C&C is great, I am just having a little slippy-slide trouble with integrating some sort of skill system. I need to run some sort of playtest. To get a grasp.

<t>I'm not giving up on this. Nothing wrong with working two games. This is the best forum I have found, too, and I enjoy the discussions. And I fully intend to support Troll Lords and C&C with bucks. I just need to actually try running the game, as I am having a little difficulty getting the fe...