Troll Lord Games

<t>You know, I love rpgs mostly because you can get together with friends and 'experience' your favorite fiction by playing through it in a sort of group story telling experience. Nothing I have heard about this 'new' edition gives me the faintest idea that it is in any way going to simulate the kin...

Sounds a lot like some of my liberties, in the Navy.

<t>I have three things to say.<br/> <br/> One; Try not to let it get to you, Treebore. You might give yourself a stroke.<br/> <br/> Two; I agree with you.<br/> <br/> Three; I would love to have you as a player in a Stormbringer game or even more, my BRP S&S game. You'd fit right in.<br/> <br/> O...

<t>Right now, I think I'll just stick with BRP to run games, play C&C if I find a game. Class and level are just counter intuitive to me as far as running a game. I am just running around in circles when I try to put it together. Anyway, best to all you Crusaders. I'll be chewing on WOTC from a ...

Have you posted it somewhere, like cncplayers.net? You have a site?

<t>The Skill and Option thing looks complex, to me. I am trying to find a way I find less complex! It seems foreign to even try to tack a skill on to class and level system, to tell the truth. Incomplete. It bugs me.<br/> <br/> No, I am not going to use experience to buy the skill bonuses because th...

<t>I was thinking of something a little different than the Skills and Options. Namely, anything granted by a secondary or background 'profession' and is not a class ability is treated as a prime, as suggested earlier in the thread. Was. So you consider around +6 to be 'master' level? That is a helpf...

<t>That is what I was thinking. Maybe add a +1 here and there for secondary skills that are actually successfully used in play? Like a wizard with 'jeweler' who manages to craft a gem to be enchanted? But how often to give out such bonuses, if at all? Just judgement call, I guess.<br/> <br/> It real...

<t>....but since these are background skills, they are supposed to be 'passing familiarity', skills no longer practiced in favor of class ability 'skills', right? Isn't that the whole point? It seems to me that they would be base 12 and you would NOT add level to rolls involving them. Or am I just o...

I keep forgetting to take the level into account; it's my BRP background.

So, you just treat them all as prime, and never add any more skill level? How about a +1 at intervals, instead of another background skill?

You are throwing gasoline on the fire...

<t>I agree about the weights, but find the EVs useful. They also remind me of the encumbrance rules from RQ2...SIZ 1 is an object you can hold easily in one hand. It (EV) is a handy, quick way to gauge what can be comfortably carried. Although my own habit has been to eyeball and not bother with it ...

Yes. It's not a biggie for me, as I was very pleased to see the common sense EVs which are what matters. Another thing on the weapon tables, in 2nd printing, at least, were some iffy damage ratings. Like poniards=1D8. I bet they got a lot of that stuff in the 3rd printing, though.

I think I am going to try that. Demo pack or not. But, what is a demo pack, exactly? At any rate, if the Trolls set something like that up, I want to be first in line. I live in Redmond, WA, less than 10 miles from WOTC Central, by the way. STEALTH ATTACK!

<t>I have been giving it a lot of thought, trying to come up with something that will jive with the 'less is more' philosophy that seems to drive C&C.<br/> <br/> The skills and options skillset looks OK, but a bit expensive in experience and a little cumbersome. So how to give NPCs a quick unobt...

<t>How very true. Nobody needs to scold me for bashing it, though, because it simply doesn't exist for me any more. Stuff I like is beginning to come out again, so I can have my hobby back. I have C&C, EPIC, the new BRP rulebook, Ramlar, many good freebies like BFRPG, GORE, Ilshara, etc. And I n...

<t>I bought the first three 3e books and ran a short campaign. The group I was in at the time was a very hard sell. We were running BRP, Earthdawn, Deadlands, and Alternity on a more or less random basis. It became too cumbersome for me around 5th level, preparing sessions came to feel like homework...

Bash WOTC, 3e, or 4e?
Heaven forbid!
What are they, anyway?

<t>Having thought about it, I think no effect on C&C or any real rpg. Because WOTC has modified the game into a different genre. I am going to give the Trolls, and Chaosium, and newer companies producing actual p&p rpgs all the business I can and just ignore WOTC from now on. I now think wha...

I love this forum.

<t>One reason I think it works well in EPIC is that the targets are kept relatively tame. Like 5 is easy, 10 is moderate, 15, 20, and 25 as the cap target. To hit someone in combat is usually in the teens, as I remember. So if you are using 2D10 for C&C, where you add levels and sometimes have A...

<t>Well, what I really like is BRP. I am interested in C&C because it shares the simplicity of function. Percentiles and D20 resolutions are easy to calculate. On the other hand, the 2D10 system in EPIC is easy too. You notice there are low mods to the rolls, almost always one digit numbers? I l...

<t>Have a look at EPIC rpg. Google for Dark Matter Games, there is a forum with a fair amount of data on the subject. And a FAQ, etc.<br/> <br/> Because it uses a 2D10 resolution, is clean, and looks like it works very well indeed. Better than a D20, probably that depends on what you are looking for...

There was a lengthy thread about removing cigarette odor from books over at rpg.net a few months ago. I believe the consensus was kitty litter works best. Anyway, maybe you could find the thread. It might have some workable suggestions, other than that.

<t>If you like BRP, like Call of Cthulu, it is an easy conversion and has just the right flavor. You can even add Mythos elements, for extra spice.<br/> <br/> For stats, just make the character as normal, and roll 2d6 for each stat and add. Build from there. Skills are basically just a base plus the...

Damn it, 3rd Eye, I saw that and now I can't get the #@*&$ thing outa my head. Thank you sooooo much.

<t>I was perusing the M&T and noticed that older dragons are very, very powerful...are the older ones made so powerful because they are not intended to fall prey to the PCs, or what? I mean, hit dice in the 30's? Who could survive such a hit (from a breath weapon), even with a successful save an...

<t>I just want to say I think what you are doing, the discount for service men and women, is great; and although it will be as much of a drop in the bucket as 'not buying any of your stuff', from now on I intend to make it a point to pick up as much of your gaming material as my pocketbook allows. S...

<t>Yes, I too have that bug. But I can think of worse hobbies (more expensive, more dangerous, etc.). Main problem with P&P (and it's not really a problem, more like a symptom, acronymania) is the acronyms. You have to remember about three dozen of them, as I recall, before you know what you are...