Troll Lord Games

<t>oh heck ere we go - how about antonio and Mr PhD start a new thread on this whole DC in C&C equivalent thing - that would be like seeing two wizards go head to head!<br/> <br/> I kinda feel that DC-15 = CL probably is the effective starting point for difficulty conversions. Although this woul...

hope this errata comes out soon.

gideon_thorne wrote: *smiles* Thats the thing, I have absolutely zero problem undermining the archtypes in my campaign. So I'll keep the lowered cost. ^_^ Archtypes are a matter of point of reference only in my game, players can happly make free with busting them up any which way they like. ^_^ Tha...

are you using the NWP 2ed skill list or do you use slots with CZ secondary skills 'packages'?

<t>I think the idea of providing guidelines for attemting feat like effects with the siege engine would be desirable - to show the way to creative CK'ing and to help those hankering after feats for their characters to see that they can try anything...this would form a logical part of any discussion ...

just a thought of the top of my head...

maybe one could combine the CZ secondary skills with the old non weapon profiecency rules - so sec skills use up slots - I like the CZ concept of sec skills for sure but dont like the xp cost system.

<t>your right ...I used a true20 skill allowance...so yes a basic harry would start with a base of 2 skills as core skills.<br/> <br/> by the way rogues dont get skills in addition to those in C&C PHB - those skills would simply be part of a class list from which a rogue character can choose so ...

<t>lets look at a fighter called Harry<br/> <br/> choose 4 (+ INT mod) skills<br/> <br/> Fighter class skills are (from 3E): climb, handle animal, Intimidate, jump, ride, swim, craft<br/> <br/> So Harry could:<br/> <br/> choose 4 skills from above as core skills and get his level bonus when using th...

<t>here is an idea for skill in C&C. Please give feedback.<br/> <br/> Any skill is either core (+ level) secondary (+1/2 level round down) or tertiary (no bonus) or unskilled (+2 to CL)<br/> <br/> Use 3E class skill list to start with. Each character gets a number of skill choices (one per 4 3E ...

i'd like to see some guidelines about character skills - maybe a development of gygax stuff but without xp costs...perhaps this could be a componant of the SIEGE discussion

<t>I still say that slimykuotoan point remains - that current prime allocation for monsters i.e. P, M or both is a bit rough and ready in M&T- of course any CK can adjust it to fit - but I just wish this had been better realised in the M&T cus it would have been a neat upgrade from 1st ed AD...

<t>Are knights really the only characters that can ride a mount or attempt the knights listed skills e.g. jump with a horse<br/> <br/> How do other CK's determine if a character can ride and if so how well - can it be that only knights get their level bonus to ride (dex/cha) checks - i could easily ...

<t>Im intrigued - like idea of professions and skills and traits to further cement character profile in some tangible game mechanics - its a must in my book - have not figured how to achieve this yet - have you worked up traits and professions etc? Iron Heroes has a neat traits rules section.<br/> <...

<t>I would agree with serleran's approach on this - you would only need to make some sort of check if perhaps you were trying to aim the falling statue on to some target below because that is where failure would be a possibility possibility - this could be a strength or dex check to 'aim'.<br/> <br/...

<t>I prefer my 'dungeons' to be on the shorter and sweeter end of the scale -thats is to say well planned and succinct in delivering the story of the game. I am very wary of dungeon fatigue setting in with players - another door another room etc.<br/> <br/> I'm thinking of handling Mega city undergr...

<t>dear Serleran<br/> <br/> you were doing well until your last paragraph which was borderline insulting to the original poster imo. I would guess this might be a case of unfortunate wording. Please dont knock people for asking questions - its the nature of the beast with any game and ruleset. <br/>...

<t>I think that a bonus for 3 people attempting a task together in some instances would create a bonus (also be a hindrance in some instances ) so a quick rule for this where risk is a factor hence a dice roll being required to resolve (as was requested by questioner) is needed - sometimes a find 'C...

Quote: IMO, this is why simple attribute scores are the best way to go. In my estimation, this would not increase the power level of the monsters (assuming most monsters have only 1 or 2 primes) because primes are more significant than attribute scores. Then you've got a truly unified mechanic for ...

As an aside i noticed that M&T does not have a beholder - what stats would you give it?

Alex

<t>firstly some mechanics advice:<br/> <br/> Get all supporting characters to make an attibute check at CL 0. For each successful check the original character (receiving the aid) gets a +2 to his own roll. <br/> <br/> secondly: apply CK discretion depending on circumstances<br/> <br/> This approach ...

<t>[/quote]C&C is meant to be kept simple and the moment we turn our monsters into characters with abvility scores and all that, then we're right back into a 3.5 type game that I would much rather avoid - personally.[/quote]<br/> <br/> I am all for simplicity. That is why knowing or being given ...

<t>Actually I think not. You might feel this is a point of somantics only. But monsters don't have attributes onlt prime or non prime saves values - so all their actions are always saves by default. Its a kind of perspective approach necessary for monsters with no attribute values. <br/> <br/> i.e. ...

<t>serleran<br/> <br/> thank you for taking the time to reply. Your post is appreciated. You have made me realise that the monster save prime system is about saves and not attribute checks per se. ok...or have i misunderstood. <br/> <br/> This leads me to ask how do monsters make attribute checks if...

<t>Nobody has explained why a whatever level elf has only two primes and a 1 hd elf has 6 primes. I don t mind all paths lead to the end result and using short cuts for monsters stats etc hence the useage of M and P saves in the first place - even that approach gives a 'monster' elf a leg up on your...

<t>Hi<br/> <br/> I have just got the M&T book. I see that elves and dwarfs etc have M and P saves. So this means that all their characteristics e.g. str, con etc are primes save base =12. Seems very weird because player character elves and dwarfs etc only get two prime characteristics.<br/> <br/...