Troll Lord Games

<t>Just the degree that they map onto the system they are trying to emulate. Castles & Crusades, Basic Fantasy, and Mutant Future went for the 'feeling' of traditional adventure games, whilst OSRIC and Labyrinth Lord attempted to very closely reproduce the rules of Basic/Advanced Dungeons & ...

Traveller wrote: So Matthew, some of us have very good, and very sound reasons for that "unfortunate" point of view. No amount of patronizing will change that. I am not saying you do not (though I am not saying that you do either, as I am not in a position to determine the validity of you...

aethelulf22 wrote: Wow. I'm sorry I asked...I was kind of expecting a different response...more all in it together. I'm sure glad I wasn't around around to see the blood and guts that seem to have been strewn over a less than glorious battlefield...and I hope that the hordes of newcomers and long l...

phadeout wrote: Well, guess I will bring up AD&D 2nd ed. again. Elven chain, I think, should effect rogue abilities something like Studded Leather would. 2nd ed ahd something like this, and I feel it was about right. Yeah, those first turn up in Unearthed Arcana (and so were probably first publ...

sieg wrote: Let me just say that I've found the most vociferous opinions that a "certain" clone game is the "true" inheritor of Old School-nesss don't really come from said clone's designers. Most of it comes from internet loudmouths that love to bash anything that's not "p...

sieg wrote: Yeah, when you posted those huge variants of xps for a ghoul (dependent on encounter level) my head hurt. Are the xps to rise in level still the same? Because 1200+ xp for a ghoul (even at that level) seems really excessive to me. Experience Tables advance irregularly, changing speed ev...

<t>Yep, I have to agree with that reasoning, Sieg. I think a lot of the need for Minion rules in 4e has to do with the insane hit point inflation in other areas, such as 63 Hit Point Ghouls.<br/> _________________<br/> It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after ones own h...

<t>That is an unfortunate point of view from my perspective, but as you say, folks are free to feel and do as they wish.<br/> _________________<br/> It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after ones own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleetin...

<t>If you want a dungeon crawl, and haven't seen it before, you might be interested in Orcs' Nest. It was written for OSRIC/Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, but it should work fine with Castles & Crusades. Hellbender is currently running it for Labyrinth Lord/Basic Dungeons & Dragons: Using ...

<t>Now, now. Let's draw some distinction between Labyrinth Lord and OSRIC. I don't think Daniel Proctor (or anybody else credited in that project) has ever uttered a word of criticism against Castles & Crusades or anybody involved.<br/> _________________<br/> It is a joyful thing indeed to hold ...

<t>Heh, heh. As I say, I wouldn't use the Minion rules myself, I view them as pretty pointless, but the Hit Point issue is much broader than how it relates to this particular concept. It might be worth starting a thread about it in the the C&C Forum, actually.<br/> <br/> That said, from what I r...

aethelulf22 wrote: Hmmm. I'm beginning to see what you mean. Shame...I still believe that anything which brings people back to old school gaming is a good thing and I would have thought that some sort of unity/community spirit/mutual support between these old school gamers should only serve those i...

serleran wrote: OSRIC is not a game -- so, I don't have a need for it. Labyrinth Lord is not a game, either, so I have no need for it. These (well, at least OSRIC, anyway) are "publishing vehicles" meant solely for publishing purposes only -- I can publish without them. Could before they ...

shadoes wrote: So basically the GSL says that if you publish a product for 4E then it can NEVER be published for another system? There is a bit of gray as to that (i.e. I am not clear on the facts). Presumably, you could withdraw from the GSL and publish the product line under another license (say,...

<t>Nothing will happen to any of their D20 lines. The GSL does not prohibit use of the OGL for separate lines, that rumour turned out to be unfounded. <br/> <br/> As I understand it, Troll Lord Games could publish Castle Zagyg for Castles & Crusades and any other system they liked, but if they p...

Fiffergrund wrote: Accepting that premise kind of makes things worse. Instead of the orc chieftain deliberately choosing the weakest specimens to surround him, he just has the unfortunate luck of having done so without realizing. That's even more far-fetched. It's like all of the powerful creatures...

<t>It was really a pdf of Castle Zagyg the Upper Works (probably leaked by the printer); you poor fools missed out big time.<br/> _________________<br/> It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after ones own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fle...

<t>Stupid alternating gray/black background.<br/> _________________<br/> It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after ones own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleeting topics of the world; but such, alas, are few and far between.<br/> <br/> Y...

<t>Let's not do the "legal thing" again. It is pointless for any of us to worry about the legality of these games until a court sets a precedent or we happen to run a publishing company and want to make use of the licenses (in which case it is time to consult a lawyer).<br/> _________________<br/> I...

<t>It was a readable pdf of an issue of the Strategic Review.<br/> _________________<br/> It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after ones own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleeting topics of the world; but such, alas, are few and far betw...

Fiffergrund wrote: Well, I can agree with HP representing an abstract that includes physical health as a large portion - luck, skill, and other factors making up the rest. That's how D&D has done it since the 1E DMG was written, if not before. Nah, the DMG is fairly clear that only a handful of...

<t>I consider Labyrinth Lord and OSRIC to be the best things to have happened to Dungeons & Dragons in a long time. I prefer Advanced Dungeons & Dragons to Castles & Crusades in many ways, and generally run C&C modules using (modified) AD&D rules.<br/> <br/> In general, I view Ca...

Thegreenman wrote: What is needed is a hand-holding, baby-steps, intro module that leaves nothing to guesswork for new CK's or players. In that case you want the 2008 Quick Start Rules. The adventure included with that Dwarven Glory II: Wyrm Well is very much a hand holding baby steps sort of affai...

froglegg wrote: She wants him to come over for dinner. Thats when it may be time for putting the FEAR into him. That $&!** so and so. I just brought her home from the hospital yesterday...............Well it seemed like yesterday. Man where did the time go? Worst thing you can do is oppose it o...

<t>There's the Quick Start Rules and the Rising Knight adventure; there's also a brief Monsters & Treasure and another adventure A Lion in the Ropes, if you look around a bit. <br/> _________________<br/> It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after ones own heart, chat...

<t>Heh, heh. Congratulations, Cinderblock and wife. I hope that you found some room for the honeymoon eventually. <br/> _________________<br/> It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after ones own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleeting topi...

Julian Grimm wrote: Remember that Green Ronin has a lot invested in T20. It would be like TLG signing and loosing C&C due to a snafu or prod from WOTC. Thus 4e has done something I feel was needed. Returned the House System to companies and diversified the market. I think, judging from what the...

<t>Your fifteen year old son, or daughter? <br/> In any case, at least you know about it.<br/> _________________<br/> It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after ones own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleeting topics of the world; but such...

<t>SCRIBD will knock all probably knock any and all illegal documents off if they are made aware; there was a huge number on there a couple of months back, but it's all gone now. If you look hard enough on the Interwebs almost anything is available in pdf, but it is almost always without the permiss...

sieg wrote: Apologies if this was mentioned earlier in the thread; I'm just lazy. But, does that 1 hp goblin give the same xp as that 20 hp goblin? If not, what kind of sliding scale? Because OOP A/D&D factored the number of hp the critter had with its xp award... If 4X doesn't do that (or does...