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You can find the trailer rather easy. But I am excited about this just for S.S.!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fanta ... versurfer/

Maybe they'll finally decide to have the Marvel-verse attacked by something nasty, like... Doctor Doom, or Apocalypse. And then, they could do a whole series of cross-over movies, with PoV changes and everything, not to mention giving the actors serious cameo roles.

That said, though, I miss Nightcrawler.

I don't see how a sequel could possibly measure up to the original.
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dcs wrote:
I don't see how a sequel could possibly measure up to the original.

Yikes, I didn't know there was an original.
How did I miss it? Was it good, then?
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I hear Galactus makes an "appearance" in FF2.

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Given that the Silver Surfer was a herald of Galactus, the Eater of Worlds making an appearance is not surprising.
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It won't be the same without Dr.Doom

There was sooooo much potential with him in the first movie and there could be SOOOOO much more with a sequel.

That being said... the Silver Surfer *does* look cool!

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Dr. Doom IS defeintely in FF2.

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Dr. Doom IS defeintely in FF2.

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That just made my day. I have to say that this alone is enough to get me to see it as soon as it comes out!

Thanks for the heads up!

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No problem. On a side note, the actor who plays DOOM, Julian McMahon (sp?) is reprising the role. Reports say that he has been filming his scenes for a little while now. I would imagine that means he has a significant part in the movie. So I wouldn't worry too much.

DOOM will be back...

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I have to admit I find the movie Doom a much more plausible opponent than the comic book Doom. At least the way he was when I used to read them 10+ years ago. Even though my kids are now receiving 5 X-Men title subscriptions over the next year. So I'll be reading those comics again.

I was very disappointed with Dr. Doom in the first movie, I hate the way the movies always rewrite the entire story when converting them over from the comics.
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I agree with Maliki - the comic is extremely popular for 50 years, thus we'll make a movie based on the comic and try to change everything aspect of the comic that we can get away with. Where's the logic? If a director wants to be an "artiste", I suggest he come up with his own characters and story. Otherwise, stick as close to canon as you can. That ends my rant for the day about comic book movies.

Sorry, but I always had a problem with the logic that Dr. Doom could actually be a challenge to the Fantastic 4. In the movie I could see him being a challenge. Maybe the movie writer/s saw things the same way I did.

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Sorry, but I always had a problem with the logic that Dr. Doom could actually be a challenge to the Fantastic 4. In the movie I could see him being a challenge. Maybe the movie writer/s saw things the same way I did.

What do you mean?

Doom has access to magic through his mystical studies of his youth. He's arguably as intelligent, if not moreso, than Reed Richards (Who is already more intelligent than Tony Stark aka Iron Man) and with his intellect has built "perfect" Doombot replicas of himself as well as took his family heirloom armor and made it into a potent power armor.

The Doom of the comic books would have been an excellent foil to the movie Fantastic 4.

However, they chose to go a route somewhere inbetween the original 1960's origin and the latest "Ultimate Fantastic Four" origin. They amalgamated the original FF and the UFF with how they went about the whole process of creating the Fantastic Four and Dr. Doom. I think it was a good melding of the two storylines and it makes for yet another Alternate Reality Marvel Universe.

I just look at the Movie Marvel Universe as just another alternate Marvel Universe. There's plenty of precedence within the Marvel Universe regarding the existence of alternate realities. It plays heavily into the Ultimate Fantastic Four comic, with the whole "Marvel Zombies" storyline that took part in a 1960's themed yet modern time Marvel Universe that was infected with a Zombie Plague of sorts.

Hmm... maybe I am to much of a comic nerd.
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...Then there's the Dr.Doom as presented in Twisted Toyfare Theatre.

Just toooo funny!

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The director made "his" version of the Fantastic Four origin. The company gives him the right to make it, and if the suits think the director's vision will make money, there is NO stopping a director.

Personally, I enjoyed the FF movie, even if it was sorta corny. DOOM still rules.

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I agree with Maliki - the comic is extremely popular for 50 years, thus we'll make a movie based on the comic and try to change everything aspect of the comic that we can get away with. Where's the logic? If a director wants to be an "artiste", I suggest he come up with his own characters and story. Otherwise, stick as close to canon as you can. That ends my rant for the day about comic book movies.

The logic, my friend, is in your very statement. The comic has FIFTY YEARS of history behind it, complete with all the warts and plot holes that come with fifty years of different writers and artists. Did you know there are like five different official explanations for why Doom wears a mask? One says he was so vain he covered a tiny scar thinking it was a disfigurement. One says he was, in fact, hideously disfigured. One says the mask is fused to his skin. Another says...

...you get the idea.

Filmmakers have two hours (three, if they REALLY push it) to cram 50 years of history and story into. Changes are necessary. Not to mention, some things that work well in comics and/or novels just plain look and/or feel stupid in the film medium.

I agree with the above. But that being said, there are some critical moments in FF history.

The coming of galactus is one of them. I hope they don't mess it up.
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Not to mention, some things that work well in comics and/or novels just plain look and/or feel stupid in the film medium.

Then I say let them look stupid on film. Obviously, the origin of the FF is stupid - so what? Superhero comics are all childish and silly. Let's embrace the childishness and have fun with it. If you don't respect the source material, as goofy as it might be, then do something else. In that regard, I think the Adam West Batman got it exactly right - the notion of a couple of guys in leotards fighting crime is silly, so let's let it be silly.

Granted - it all comes down to making a profit, and I totally respect that. I'm just explaining why I don't generally like superhero movies.

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Then I say let them look stupid on film. Obviously, the origin of the FF is stupid - so what? Superhero comics are all childish and silly. Let's embrace the childishness and have fun with it. If you don't respect the source material, as goofy as it might be, then do something else. In that regard, I think the Adam West Batman got it exactly right - the notion of a couple of guys in leotards fighting crime is silly, so let's let it be silly.

Granted - it all comes down to making a profit, and I totally respect that. I'm just explaining why I don't generally like superhero movies.

I could argue that altering story elements so that they don't look foolish and idiotic on screen is the very definition of respecting the source material. See Bryan Singer's X-Men movies for a prime example, or Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movies.

You could counter-argue that you are talking about a man, who's bitten by a spider and gets powers. From experience I can tell you that doesn't happen. (ok, so it wasn't "radioactive") Or in transformers - giant alien robots from space. How realistic does it need to be?
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It should be noted that Marvel itself is re-inventing the myths to correspond with the changing times... Ultimate Avengers... X-Men... Spiderman... etc.

Whether it is a radioactive spider... or a genetically altered one isn't really all that important. Humankind as been inventing and re-inventing (or telling and re-telling if you rather) for centuries. Well, actually, more like that past few thousand years.
However, we will always have our favorites, and we will all get suitably annoyed when someone messes with our favorites!

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I actually quite like U-spidey and U-FF (tho lately U-FF has sucked).

The ultimates are a great line too. Personal fav is always Dark Horse's new Conan. (0-35) I dont know if I like the no-Busiek Conan (36 onwards). We'll see. Losing him was a tragedy.
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