These are some cool orcs

[Julian Grimm]

I've always thought of orcs as a possible evolutionary offshoot of humans, say from cro-magons or neanderthals. I was checking a website I frequent for monster ideas and saw these and fell in love.

[Dracyian]

those look erie, I mean I love them, they are beautifully done, but they look like a cousin species to humans, and a not so distant cousin at that

[capmarvel]

Wow!

Now wondering it's too late to make a Holloween costume that looks like one of those...

[Rigon]

In my old homebrew, orcs were a corrupted clan of humans changed by fell and dark magics. It explained why humans and orcs could breed half-orcs. Nice find JG.

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[Dracyian]

In my old homebrew, orcs were a corrupted clan of humans changed by fell and dark magics. It explained why humans and orcs could breed half-orcs. Nice find JG.

R-

You could always take the Tolkien approach to it where they are a perverted cousin to elves, which, since a lot of fantasy settings allow half-elves, you could very easily have half-orcs

[Omote]

Pretty cool JG. If you are familiar with the Midnight campaign setting, this somewhat reminds me of orcs in that setting.

~O

[Rigon]

In my old homebrew, orcs were a corrupted clan of humans changed by fell and dark magics. It explained why humans and orcs could breed half-orcs. Nice find JG.

R-

You could always take the Tolkien approach to it where they are a perverted cousin to elves, which, since a lot of fantasy settings allow half-elves, you could very easily have half-orcs

I thought of that, but I also made elves an off-shot of humans. Again transformed by great magics in the depth of time. Again, an explanation of why humans and elves can crossbreed. I'm thinking instead of working on a new homebrew, I should just break out my notes and revisit my old homebrew. I'm thinking a major rewrite might be in the works....

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[Treebore]

In my old homebrew, orcs were a corrupted clan of humans changed by fell and dark magics. It explained why humans and orcs could breed half-orcs. Nice find JG.

R-

You could always take the Tolkien approach to it where they are a perverted cousin to elves, which, since a lot of fantasy settings allow half-elves, you could very easily have half-orcs

I seem to recall they were elves, not cousins to elves, that were then turned into the orcs.

Anyways, I like this version too. Looks like they may actually be an off shoot relative to humans that survived to present day, unlike what has happened in reality. I have always had a problem with people cross breeding with orcs before, but this looks far more like a hybrid can occur.

[Relaxo]

those look bad ass.

SPeaking of half-breeds... any books every have a halfelfhalforc?
(offspring of orc and elf) ((or is that a halforc, the same as a human/orc offspring))

[Omote]

SPeaking of half-breeds... any books every have a halfelfhalforc?
(offspring of orc and elf) ((or is that a halforc, the same as a human/orc offspring))

I call those ugly humans.

~O

[Dracyian]

SPeaking of half-breeds... any books every have a halfelfhalforc?
(offspring of orc and elf) ((or is that a halforc, the same as a human/orc offspring))

I call those ugly humans.

~O

+1

[Relaxo]

ROFLMAO!

[Dracyian]

In my old homebrew, orcs were a corrupted clan of humans changed by fell and dark magics. It explained why humans and orcs could breed half-orcs. Nice find JG.

R-

You could always take the Tolkien approach to it where they are a perverted cousin to elves, which, since a lot of fantasy settings allow half-elves, you could very easily have half-orcs

I seem to recall they were elves, not cousins to elves, that were then turned into the orcs.

Anyways, I like this version too. Looks like they may actually be an off shoot relative to humans that survived to present day, unlike what has happened in reality. I have always had a problem with people cross breeding with orcs before, but this looks far more like a hybrid can occur.

I love Tolkien lore, but by no means am I a Tolkien Scholar. I guess I always considered them a cousin race because they were a perversion of Elves.

Now I did stumble upon a quote from Tolkien saying

"Orc is not an English word. It occurs in one or two places [in The Hobbit] but is usually translated goblin (or hobgoblin for the larger kinds)"

So I don't think there was a difference between Orcs and Golbins in the Tolkien universe such as there are in most other fantasy words

[Julian Grimm]

There really isn't much difference between them in Tolkien. In my games I have described the differences as this: Goblins are Moria Orcs, Orcs are the standard LOTR Orc and Bugbears are Uruk-Hai. I typically left Hobgoblins out of this equation but then I kind of see them as the goblins from the Hobbit.

This makes it easier for new players to visualize them and gives a nice baseline.

[Dracyian]

There really isn't much difference between them in Tolkien. In my games I have described the differences as this: Goblins are Moria Orcs, Orcs are the standard LOTR Orc and Bugbears are Uruk-Hai. I typically left Hobgoblins out of this equation but then I kind of see them as the goblins from the Hobbit.

This makes it easier for new players to visualize them and gives a nice baseline.

That works really well, I Like it