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Now that I have become totally lost; what do you guys think of Richard C. Hoagland's Hoaxland's theory that the moon is a hollow space ship?

Julian Grimm wrote:Now that I have become totally lost; what do you guys think of Richard C. Hoagland's Hoaxland's theory that the moon is a hollow space ship?

That's no theory! I've been there. It is TRUE

But... but... Hoagaland has a crazy beard and Giogio Tsoukalos has crazy hair... they must know things I don't......

The sad thing is that I used to have some respect for Hoagland as a balance point and alternative thought to common theories. Then, he went way out there and would not consider a balance to his theories and consider that he may be wrong. The further he went into 'crazy town' the less I respected him.

As for Georgio Tsukalos he will considers nothing but what he feels and jumps on every disproven idea out there. He won't consider the idea that he may be wrong on anything at all and cannot fathom that humanity was smart enough to do the things we've done.

Hoagland, Tsukalos and Noory all moved away from alternatives and possible explanations to psudeo-science, conspiracy theories and outlandish claims never giving a thought to how absurd they have become. One thing I have liked in those circles are Art Bell's interviews with Mitcho Kaku where they consider some very logic theories and explinations for certain phenominon in our universe. While Bell does get out there you can tell he really listens and considers what Kaku says.

Forgive any spelling errors.

concobar wrote:Nothing outside the universe? really? How do you know?
Is it not possible that we live in a multi-verse or a multi-dimensional universe as some string theory proponents have suggested? regardless I would love to hear all about how you know there is nothing outside of the universe and wait anxiously for you to produce the evidence of your declaration.

M-theory does allow for the possibility of the multi-verse, yes. Though there is no direct evidence of them or evidence of interactions with them. All current evidence points to all matter is our own universe was created internally to our own- that's what i was getting at.

Fizz wrote:I read it and think it is absolutely wrong. further I do not concede that Dr. Guth is more intelligent than you or I and no more intelligent than many other scientists that disagree with him.

I never said he was more intelligent- maybe he is, maybe he isn't. But he has spent his lifetime studying the subject- he has far greater experience and knowledge of this subject than either of us. As for criticism- of course it should be criticized- it should absolutely be debated and put through scientific the ringer- that's good science. That said, inflation has become the predominantly accepted theory amongst astronomers and cosmologists.

As Hawkins was wrong about black holes destroying information from the universe

You're a bit out of date, actually. Hawkins ammended his idea to say that the information is still there, but "smeared" across the event horizon. But that's ok- this is exactly how science should work- you get an idea, you try it out, and if it doesn't work, you try something else. It's always fun watching him and Susskind debate though.

i believe Guth is wrong about information creating itself from nil. As I said before and repeat. When "scientists" begin looking for answers while dismissing some possibilities out of hand they are no longer doing scientific work, they are promoting an agenda.

And the key word you've used here is "believe". For you say he's wrong is a total leap of faith on your part, because you have nothing to counter his (or any other cosmologist's) data, observations, or models. Your disbelief in him is based solely on your disbelief of particle creation (which is incorrect).

You accuse him of dismissing other possibilities in favor on an "agenda". What agenda does he have? What other possibilities has he dismissed? He (along with others- it's a group effort) has put forth a theory- one that fits the observations and data. It has become widely accepted. Is it correct? Possibly. Is it perfect and complete? Probably not. But it's our best theory right now, and will undoubtly go through more tweaks as more data is collected.

However, you haven't offered any alternatives. If you can explain scientifically why he is outright wrong, please do. But all i see you doing is laughing it off as silliness. So you are the one who is being unscientific.

No. No one has observed matter and energy creating itself from nil.

It's actually been measured in the Casimir Effect. And Hawking showed it's part of the mechanism for how black holes evaporate. There are ample papers on the subject are available for your reading, should you care to search. But to clarify, it's not from nil. It's from the zero-point vacuum energy.

And just because it's so pretty... "A Force From Empty Space": http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap061217.html


-Fizz

seskis281 wrote:But... but... Hoagaland has a crazy beard and Giogio Tsoukalos has crazy hair... they must know things I don't......

Probably just how long to hold the wire hanger in the outlet make the hair crazy without killing themselves...

How to Tell When a Scientific Study is Total B.S.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... l-b-s.html

I think the article could be far better, but I guess/hope its better than nothing.

Treebore wrote:How to Tell When a Scientific Study is Total B.S.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... l-b-s.html

I think the article could be far better, but I guess/hope its better than nothing.

Not TOO bad. It is tough to enumerate in a somewhat concise manner all major elements that would be red flags when writing for an audience that probably didn't even take as much as a physical sciences class in H.S.

Arduin wrote:

Treebore wrote:How to Tell When a Scientific Study is Total B.S.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... l-b-s.html

I think the article could be far better, but I guess/hope its better than nothing.

Not TOO bad. It is tough to enumerate in a somewhat concise manner all major elements that would be red flags when writing for an audience that probably didn't even take as much as a physical sciences class in H.S.

& NO idea on how to actually use logic (much less morals and ethics, but that is a different rabbit to chase)

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Looks like we got a Spammer....

TheMetal1 wrote:Looks like we got a Spammer....

I reported it yesterday...

Purty sweet mannequin tho.

slimykuotoan wrote:Purty sweet mannequin tho.

You'd make out with her/it.

R-

Rigon wrote:

slimykuotoan wrote:Purty sweet mannequin tho.

You'd make out with her/it.

R-

Wasn't there a cheesy movie in the 80s-90s about that very thing ?

Rigon wrote:

slimykuotoan wrote:Purty sweet mannequin tho.

You'd make out with her/it.

R-

Aye, I'll naught deny it; the lass looks too inviting, and would no doubt prove compliant.

I may have typed the above out loud.

slimykuotoan wrote:

Rigon wrote:

slimykuotoan wrote:Purty sweet mannequin tho.

You'd make out with her/it.

R-

Aye, I'll naught deny it; the lass looks too inviting, and would no doubt prove compliant.

R-

Lurker wrote:

Rigon wrote:

slimykuotoan wrote:Purty sweet mannequin tho.

You'd make out with her/it.

R-

Wasn't there a cheesy movie in the 80s-90s about that very thing ?

Two of them. More depending on your PoV.