Elf Bow?

[jdizzy001]

In the CKG there is a list of Finely Crafted Weapons, and beneath that table there is a finely crafted armor section. Is there a finely crafted ranged weapon section somewhere?

[alcyone]

In M&T of Aihrde there is Rilthwood for making bows.

CKG has pull weights, but it's up to you how those pull weights manifest in the game, if they are advanced construction or just heavier wood that costs the same.

Maybe we'll see more in the new Arms and Armor guide.

"Castle Keepers can extrapolate for
the others items on those lists."

As you can see, they aren't much different from the stock list, should be pretty simple.

[Tadhg]

Maybe we'll see more in the new Arms and Armor guide.

Oh, I meant to ask you about this earlier ~ word? I haven't seen anything in the anvil forum. Did someone post something about this?

Thanks, G.

[Treebore]

Maybe we'll see more in the new Arms and Armor guide.

Oh, I meant to ask you about this earlier ~ word? I haven't seen anything in the anvil forum. Did someone post something about this?

Thanks, G.

I want to say its a result of a "stretch goal" in one of the recent Kickstarters. Far from sure, though.

[Rigon]

Maybe we'll see more in the new Arms and Armor guide.

Oh, I meant to ask you about this earlier ~ word? I haven't seen anything in the anvil forum. Did someone post something about this?

Thanks, G.

I want to say its a result of a "stretch goal" in one of the recent Kickstarters. Far from sure, though.

I believe it was a stretch goal of the 3 Sisters kickstarter.

R-

[Omote]

Elf crafted bows are a thing of excellence in my games, that even surpass many magical properties. In order to make them different, and unique I have elven bows have the following qualities:

LONG BOW* 3000gp, 1d10 dmg., 150 ft. range, 6 lbs., 5EV
SHORT BOW* 1500gp, 1d8 dmg., 120 ft. range, 4 lbs., 4EV

*These weapons are the finest examples of elven craftsmanship that
simply cannot be duplicated by other races. These composite, recurve
weapons are always considered greater expertcraft and the bonuses for
such craftsmanship are already calculated into the weapon’s statistics
(no additional bonuses to hit or damage apply).

**Elven crafted bows are not often found outside of elven communities,
or in the hands of non-elves, and is considered a great crime to be sold
off to other elves, let alone other races. If such a quality weapon can
be found outside of elven society, the price is often staggering.

[serleran]

For me, they generally have greater range. The arrows are the things to want.

[Arduin]

Elf crafted bows are a thing of excellence in my games, that even surpass many magical properties. In order to make them different, and unique I have elven bows have the following qualities:

LONG BOW* 3000gp, 1d10 dmg., 150 ft. range, 6 lbs., 5EV
SHORT BOW* 1500gp, 1d8 dmg., 120 ft. range, 4 lbs., 4EV

With the much greater damage (requiring much greater velocity and thus "pull"), what are your Str requirements for those? (Think English & Welsh Longbows.)

[Omote]

I do not have STR requirements for elven bows, but that is a very good idea that I never thought about. My rationalization for the increased rannge and damage was all tied into the notion of "elven craftsmenship." Adding a STR requirement for these bows is not entirely a bad idea. Thank you.

~O

[alcyone]

With fancy ornate elf equipment, generally you need a minimum Charisma of 16 to pull off the look.

[serleran]

With fancy ornate elf equipment, generally you need a minimum Charisma of 16 to pull off the look.

The fanciest stuff provides Charisma bonuses.

[Lurker]

With fancy ornate elf equipment, generally you need a minimum Charisma of 16 to pull off the look.

The fanciest stuff provides Charisma bonuses.

But you can only put so much lipstick on a pig (or orc) and it will still only be a pig ....

That said, good idea on elf craftsmanship bows . But does a str requirement 'fit' for an elf ???? I know real world physics requires it. But, I don't picture elves as being strong or making something requiring extra strength. That may just be me and my preferences/flavor getting in the way though.

[Treebore]

With fancy ornate elf equipment, generally you need a minimum Charisma of 16 to pull off the look.

The fanciest stuff provides Charisma bonuses.

But you can only put so much lipstick on a pig (or orc) and it will still only be a pig ....

That said, good idea on elf craftsmanship bows . But does a str requirement 'fit' for an elf ???? I know real world physics requires it. But, I don't picture elves as being strong or making something requiring extra strength. That may just be me and my preferences/flavor getting in the way though.

Since its only one step up from a d8 and d6, respectively, I'd just require a STR requirement of 13+. If I ever used such bows in my games.

[Arduin]

With fancy ornate elf equipment, generally you need a minimum Charisma of 16 to pull off the look.

The fanciest stuff provides Charisma bonuses.

But you can only put so much lipstick on a pig (or orc) and it will still only be a pig ....

That said, good idea on elf craftsmanship bows . But does a str requirement 'fit' for an elf ????

Elves have the same range as humans. Based on skeletal remains of Long bow archers (English & Welsh) and the Str scale in C&C, you'd be looking at a minimum Str score of ~15 to use and get that damage increase. Forget anything less than that.

[Treebore]

With fancy ornate elf equipment, generally you need a minimum Charisma of 16 to pull off the look.

The fanciest stuff provides Charisma bonuses.

But you can only put so much lipstick on a pig (or orc) and it will still only be a pig ....

That said, good idea on elf craftsmanship bows . But does a str requirement 'fit' for an elf ????

Elves have the same range as humans. Based on skeletal remains of Long bow archers (English & Welsh) and the Str scale in C&C, you'd be looking at a minimum Str score of ~15 to use and get that damage increase. Forget anything less than that.

Why would that be? In C&C you get a +1 STR bonus from 13 to 15. Be pretty much a stupid idea to say a 15 could do it and not allow a 13 or 14, mechanically speaking.

[Arduin]

Why would that be?

Because it was figured that a person, in order to able to use those bows, had to be able to press at least 150 lbs and I believe that in C&C a 15 Str means that you can press that much...

[Treebore]

Why would that be?

Because it was figured that a person, in order to able to use those bows, had to be able to press at least 150 lbs and I believe that in C&C a 15 Str means that you can press that much...

Yeah, I think dead lift and bench press are 10 x attribute score. Personally I'd just look at the hit/damage modifier and just go with a 13.

[Arduin]

Why would that be?

Because it was figured that a person, in order to able to use those bows, had to be able to press at least 150 lbs and I believe that in C&C a 15 Str means that you can press that much...

Yeah, I think dead lift and bench press are 10 x attribute score. Personally I'd just look at the hit/damage modifier and just go with a 13.

Yes, that would be better in game rules wise and for scaling. Especially if you found something like Odysseus's Bow.