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Total Newbie
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:44 am
by Daniel
Hello All;
Not sure if this is the place to do this, so Mods just tell me if it isn't and then please move it to the right place.
I found C&C yesterday by mistake. I was looking for something else on the net and came across a preview PDF of
The Castle Keeper's Guide. It was quite interesting to say the least. By midnight I had found the Troll Lords website. Read more and realized I was not only interested, but wanted to get the basics so I could read the rules and see where this could go.
Today, during lunch, I went to DriveThruRPG and picked up a copy of
Castles & Crusades Players Handbook 6th Printing as part of one of the bundles. So I now have four of the books in my Digital Library.
So who am I? My name is Daniel. I am proud to be an old grognard with lots of time in the trenches. Played my first RPG game in 1976. In 1977 I bought Melee and learned that I loved playing RPGs. In 1978 I was given a copy of the AD&D players handbook and the rest, as they say, was history. I often wonder if I have spent more of RPGs or on my house.
I have played and owned many different rule systems over many genre. But I always return to the fantasy style setting. I look forward to learning more about this rule set.
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:25 am
by Treebore
I haven't been gaming as long as you, I am just entering my 26th year, but C&C has become my perfect RPG with my house rulings. I too play a wide range of RPG's, but primarily stick with fantasy.
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:25 pm
by Rigon
Welcome Daniel. I'm a youngin compared to you and Tree, since I didn't start until the early 90s. But I've been playing C&C for over 10 years and I think it is the best system out there for fantasy RPGs. Take a look around, ask questions, and enjoy yourself. We're a pretty good bunch around here and always willing to help as we can.
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Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:23 pm
by Arduin
Welcome Daniel. I too started playing at the dawn of time. For myself, C&C is the best FRPG that I've played and GM'ed. C&C is more what Gary Gygax would have done for a D&D 3rd Ed.
Hope you find it to be fun for you!
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:00 pm
by Daniel
Thanks for the welcome all. I appreciate it. Spent some time last night reading the player's handbook. I like what I have read so far.
Rigon wrote: Take a look around, ask questions, and enjoy yourself.
Trust me, I am not shy. I will be asking lots of questions. One of the things I enjoy as I learn a new rule set is being able to ask questions when I have access to folks who know the rules set already.

Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:56 pm
by serleran
Hi.
Some of us have forgotten the rules we created.
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:52 pm
by Tadhg
Welcome to the Crusade, Daniel!
Enjoy the game,
Rhu.

Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:20 pm
by Lurker
Daniel wrote:
...
Trust me, I am not shy. I will be asking lots of questions. One of the things I enjoy as I learn a new rule set is being able to ask questions when I have access to folks who know the rules set already.

Like others said, welcome
Ask away, you'll get answers from both ends of the spectrum, and all points in between. But, they will all be backed by the principle of "It is your game, have fun with it!"
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:56 pm
by Rigon
serleran wrote:Hi.
Some of us have forgotten the rules we created.
Yeah, but you can always ask us. We remember them.
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Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:46 pm
by Daniel
Thank you All for the welcome. It is appreciated.
I do have one question, what book(s) are best for me to buy after the Player's Handbook? I picked up a package deal so I have the Monsters and Treasures books already as well.
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:48 pm
by Arduin
Daniel wrote:Thank you All for the welcome. It is appreciated.
I do have one question, what book(s) are best for me to buy after the Player's Handbook? I picked up a package deal so I have the Monsters and Treasures books already as well.
CKG (wait a couple weeks for the newest printing) for optional rules and stuff.
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:04 pm
by Treebore
Yeah, you already have what you "need", so from now on get what sounds good to you. The CKG is good in that it gives you the class level progressions beyond what the PH has, and gives you a TON of alternate rules ideas to tack on to your C&C game. Even though I recommend you play C&C by the book your first time out. That way you can get a good in depth feel for what you think C&C is lacking, and then house rule it to give it what you feel it needs for your next campaign. Thats what I did, ran my first campaign by the book up to level 8. At that point I created my initial House Rules, and have been playing that way ever since. Of course adding new rules and ideas as I become aware of the need for them or decide I want that idea in my C&C games, and getting rid of old ones or rewriting them once my group and I find a better way to handle it.
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:55 pm
by Daniel
Treebore wrote: Even though I recommend you play C&C by the book your first time out. That way you can get a good in depth feel for what you think C&C is lacking, and then house rule it to give it what you feel it needs for your next campaign.
This is what I had in mind. I find it is best to learn the rule set as written before you begin to pull on strings.
Thanks All for the input.
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:12 am
by serleran
I would recommend anything written by me.
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:27 pm
by Rigon
serleran wrote:I would recommend anything written by me.
+1
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Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:11 pm
by Daniel
serleran wrote:I would recommend anything written by me.
Cool, so do I look for Serleran or do you want to share your nom de plume?
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:26 pm
by Rigon
Daniel wrote:serleran wrote:I would recommend anything written by me.
Cool, so do I look for Serleran or do you want to share your nom de plume?
He's the author of the M&T and other stuff.
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Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:20 pm
by Daniel
Rigon wrote:Daniel wrote:serleran wrote:I would recommend anything written by me.
Cool, so do I look for Serleran or do you want to share your nom de plume?
He's the author of the M&T and other stuff.
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Thanks, but now I am back to the same question: M&T lists two key authors and four additional authors. Serleran is not listed among them, so what is the name I should be looking for?
Side note: My status as a Newbie covers both the game and this forum. I am still learning who is who. Please keep that in mind when I ask a question that seems dumb. Thank you.

Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:33 pm
by serleran
Daniel wrote:serleran wrote:I would recommend anything written by me.
Cool, so do I look for Serleran or do you want to share your nom de plume?
"serleran" would be the nom de plume, actually. But, when I do real writing, I use my name. It'd be Robert Doyel. Spelled that way on purpose because it's right... and has a cool meaning.
Monsters and Treasure would be the big deal, I suppose. But there are also Engineering Dungeons, Engineering Castles, and some stuff for the CKG. And, of course, innumerable (my post could is inaccurate, given some factors yet to be disclosed) posts here, including two "complete" game conversions -- The Arcanum and Arduin -- to C&C.
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:02 pm
by Treebore
serleran wrote: including two "complete" game conversions -- The Arcanum and Arduin -- to C&C.
Of which I have both compiled into a word pad .doc, I have yet to convert them to PDF, despite having the means to do so...
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:19 pm
by Rigon
serleran wrote:Daniel wrote:serleran wrote:I would recommend anything written by me.
Cool, so do I look for Serleran or do you want to share your nom de plume?
"serleran" would be the nom de plume, actually. But, when I do real writing, I use my name. It'd be Robert Doyel. Spelled that way on purpose because it's right... and has a cool meaning.
Monsters and Treasure would be the big deal, I suppose. But there are also Engineering Dungeons, Engineering Castles, and some stuff for the CKG. And, of course, innumerable (my post could is inaccurate, given some factors yet to be disclosed) posts here, including two "complete" game conversions -- The Arcanum and Arduin -- to C&C.
Yes, that's him.
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Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:40 pm
by Daniel
serleran wrote: "serleran" would be the nom de plume, actually. But, when I do real writing, I use my name. It'd be Robert Doyel. Spelled that way on purpose because it's right... and has a cool meaning.
Monsters and Treasure would be the big deal, I suppose. But there are also Engineering Dungeons, Engineering Castles, and some stuff for the CKG. And, of course, innumerable (my post could is inaccurate, given some factors yet to be disclosed) posts here, including two "complete" game conversions -- The Arcanum and Arduin -- to C&C.
Ah so I already have bought some of your stuff and the two Engineering books are on my list for the next buy. Oh and I will mind the spelling of Doyel so as not to misspell it.

Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:41 pm
by Daniel
Rigon wrote: Yes, that's him.
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Thanks for the help Sir!
Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:44 am
by tylermo
That other guy on M&T isn't anybody special. It's just Stephen Chenault, janitor and sometimes CEO of Troll Lord Games.

Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:17 pm
by Rigon
tylermo wrote:That other guy on M&T isn't anybody special. It's just Stephen Chenault, janitor and sometimes CEO of Troll Lord Games.

Yep, no one special.
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Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:20 am
by Lurker
tylermo wrote:That other guy on M&T isn't anybody special. It's just Stephen Chenault,
janitor and sometimes CEO of Troll Lord Games.

But just think how hard it is to be a janitor for a bunch of trolls ! All the Dr Pepper cans to pick up, cleaning the spilled drinks off the floor, and no telling what they track in from the Arkansas hills.

Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:25 am
by Tadhg
Lurker wrote:and no telling what they track in from the Arkansas hills.

Barfed up hairballs and dung pellets from . . . skobbits!!

Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:46 am
by Daniel
Ok, completed my second pass through the Player's handbook. If all goes well, my son and I will have a small game on Saturday. Our first C&C game.

Re: Total Newbie
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:42 am
by maximus
Being new to C&C as well, I must say I am enjoying the system. I have been running my kids (12 & 9) thru The Keep on the Borderlands and decided to covert it over midstream. Thanks to Treebore's advice (in another thread) I jumped right into it and found the conversions easy. When initially researching a return to gaming several months back I purchased a set of 3 rule books on the cheap not realizing they were the digest versions...the full size version of M&T is next on my purchase list!