The Golden Compass... Movie

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:21 am

Orpheus wrote:
Finally we all agree.

*chuckles* It wasn't bad for what it was. Certainly a step up in quality vs the D&D movies.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:31 am

gideon_thorne wrote:
http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/

I'm getting an untitled page

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:47 am

DangerDwarf wrote:
I'm getting an untitled page

Don't know why? Works on this end.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:54 am

Worked on my end, too, with a C&P of the URL.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:04 am

gideon_thorne wrote:
*chuckles* It wasn't bad for what it was. Certainly a step up in quality vs the D&D movies.

That isn't saying much.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:06 am

gideon_thorne wrote:
Don't know why? Works on this end.

Hmmm. It's working now. Was getting a thing that said This Page is Blank before.

DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:08 am

gideon_thorne wrote:
*chuckles* It wasn't bad for what it was. Certainly a step up in quality vs the D&D movies.

I actually half enjoyed the 2nd one. Probably due to the small things, like mention of the Ghost Tower of Inverness and such.

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:21 am

Julian Grimm wrote:
That isn't saying much.

*smiles* It's a kids film. I wasn't expecting much.

Im still waiting for something that'll top Lodos War. ^_~`
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:32 am

gideon_thorne wrote:
Im still waiting for something that'll top Lodos War. ^_~`

See, I couldn't get into that at all. I tried and tried then finally gave the discs back to my friend.

DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:36 am

Oh, and about the site Peter linked.
I like the "Kick POCM's Ass" idea.

Nifelhein · Post by **Nifelhein** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:08 pm

Since everyone stopped arguing religion I will not bring it back myself.
I saw one or two episodes or whatever Lodoss War had, but I couldn't bear to see anything else, I just can't get around weapon-like elven ears heh. I haven't seen Eragon, but a friend said it was good, he read the books as well, and liked them.

In my understanding it is a very childish theme so I wasn't really expecting much from it, I mean, anything with a last dragon rider on the hero is bound to be meh for me. And I never watched the second D&D movie, the first made me run from the second like the devil from the cross.
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dcs · Post by **dcs** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:47 pm

DangerDwarf wrote:
Easter eggs and chocolate bunnies?

Funny, I don't recall "chocolate bunnies" being mentioned in church . . . as for Easter eggs, they might have been associated with fertility festivals at one point in time but they came to be associated with the end of the Lenten fast (during which one abstained from animal products such as milk, butter, and . . . eggs).
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dcs · Post by **dcs** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:52 pm

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you don't think that any of their ideology went with as well and was absorbed?

No, because if the ideology had remained the trappings never would have been permitted.

One need only consider the Church's reaction to the Judaizers. They were permitted for a time but later explicitly condemned for fear that continuing Jewish ritual practices would lead to abandoning the Christian faith.
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dcs · Post by **dcs** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:55 pm

gideon_thorne wrote:
I certainly intend to check out the book series mentioned in the original topic though.

How do you know it's "harmless" if you haven't read it?
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Orpheus · Post by **Orpheus** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:35 pm

gideon_thorne wrote:
Are we?

Trappings are exactly what we are talking about here. ^_~
http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/ Have a ball.

Wow. I thought that you said all of the evidence were on a multitude of university websites, but instead we got an ad for a book. Great research Peter.

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:10 pm

dcs wrote:
How do you know it's "harmless" if you haven't read it?

All books are harmless. Its a binding of paper and ink. About the only harm a book could truly do anyone is if the paper is particularly durable and someone gets a papercut. Although I spose someone could cause headaches by hitting another over the head with a hardback.
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:12 pm

Orpheus wrote:
Wow. I thought that you said all of the evidence were on a multitude of university websites, but instead we got an ad for a book. Great research Peter.

*chuckles* No, I suggested you look up any given course curicculum and look into the classes.

And I happen to think that site is rather grand research. By checking out any of the key names it mentions on any given google search one can find all sorts of interesting things. ^_^
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Orpheus · Post by **Orpheus** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:46 pm

I'm sorry Peter, but most scholars do not take the idea seriously. So you have a few cats (one of whom teaches at a slightly...uh...unorthodox seminary) perpetuating some ideas which sprang up in the 19th century. Just because similar ideas have existed in the world doesn't mean that Christianity borrowed from them. It is speculation and there is not hard, factual evidence for it. I'm not going to agree with you on this and you're not going to agree with me. I'll not say anything else about it and I'll end it here. Now please go draw us something.

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:58 pm

*grins* Don't get the books based on the movie then. They might reach out and eat you. Some books are dangerous
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:07 pm

From what I have read up on the series it looks as if it may be attacking the legalism and dogma associated with the church. Again I have to read the series to see how I interperate it so I cannot comment on the possible attacks until I do.

That said it looks like an interesting story.
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:14 pm

Now, if you really want some odd ball stuff, I suggest the Nightside stories by Simon R Green. ^_~`

Some neat concepts for gaming therin.
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:14 pm

Wait a minute, wait a minute... WAIT A MINUTE!!!

I have a bad feeling for THE GOLDEN COMPASS once it opens in theaters. Do you realize that this flick is going to open up against ALIEN VS. PREDATOR 2?!?!?!?!
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Nifelhein · Post by **Nifelhein** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:43 pm

Good grief!
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:49 pm

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Do you realize that this flick is going to open up against ALIEN VS. PREDATOR 2

Seeing as I could barely stomach the first, I'm not worried. But, I have no money riding on the outcome, so I really don't care.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:42 pm

yeah, the Alien vs Predator 2 thing was said in jest. Yes, they are really making AvP2, and as of now they are schedule to both open the same week... but AvP2 isn;t going to take anything away from TGC.
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:44 pm

I don't see that either unless it is a vast improvement over the original. Saw AVP for a fix and nothing more.
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:32 am

Julian Grimm wrote:
I don't see that either unless it is a vast improvement over the original. Saw AVP for a fix and nothing more.

Agreed. Same here, I like that... I saw ot for a fix. Nice, because that's exactly the case. AvPs creature effects were still top-notch.

You know what's awesome, how a thread on His Dark Materials, and a high-brow religious debate has spireled right out of control into a discussion in Alien vs. Predator.

*clears throat*

You're welcome.

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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:50 am

Omote wrote:
You know what's awesome, how a thread on His Dark Materials, and a high-brow religious debate has spireled right out of control into a discussion in Alien vs. Predator.

Hey, its the TLG forums. We're random like that.

Its all gaming related in one form or fashion.
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:55 am

gideon_thorne wrote:
Hey, its the TLG forums. We're random like that.

THAT'S RIGHT!!! Lookie here...
*in best cockney accent* "It's set on random."

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Jupp · Post by **Jupp** » Tue May 08, 2007 8:25 am

gideon_thorne wrote:
All books are harmless. Its a binding of paper and ink. About the only harm a book could truly do anyone is if the paper is particularly durable and someone gets a papercut. Although I spose someone could cause headaches by hitting another over the head with a hardback.

Books are harmless? I beg to differ. Books and writings have started revolutions (Marx, Luxemburg), have created new religions (Luther), started a war, at least according to a persident of the U.S of A. (Beecher Stowe). Heck, they even brought us to what we are doing in our free time. Roleplaying games (JRR, Leiber, Howard, et al).

Books change the way we think and act since the day we've started to read. And it would be a sad thing if books were only harmless things made out of paper