Battlemats

[gamerprinter]

Whoops! You are quite right.

I goofed, "Sorry, thanks for catching that for me!"

[SavageRobby]

No sweat. I'm looking forward to seeing the product.

FYI, right now there are cart buttons at the bottom of the page. I'm not sure what they add to the cart - possibly the printed forest stream crossing?

[gamerprinter]

On my Endless Terrain page, the "BUY" button allows you to order the first of my Endless Terrain set - "Heavy Woodlands", of which you can see a thumbnail to the left. This is an order for a $19.95 battlemap set.
http://www.gamer-printshop.com/endless-terrain.html

If you mean the link from the free download map, this "Buy" button refers to printing the free "forest stream crossing.pdf" - I'll print this to 90# cardstock and laminate with 5 mil film and ship - for $6

[SavageRobby]

You may want to doublecheck that: when I click it, it adds a $6 Gamer Resource Free Battlemap - Printing / Laminating Item # GRFB-001 to my cart.

[gamerprinter]

Geez, I'm screwing up on these buttons.

Thank you for catching that.

Its fixed!

[BASH MAN]

I have made my own in the past. Now I have a hybrid of home-made and store-bought.

First of all- I hate the chessex wet erase mats. If anybody ever writes on it with the wrong pen, that is a permanent stain that can never be removed. I have seen enough such things happen to cause me to NEVER want to buy a chessex mat, ever.

The first mat I made I used the back of a board game, and mounted paper that I had printed a grid pattern onto onto the board.

This worked well-- but you could not write on it. Instead, I used several pieces of styrofoam painted grey and sprayed with fleckstone to place as dungeon walls. That worked quite well for a while.

Then, for ease and convenience, I decided to get something Dry erase, not wanting wet erase for the reasons mentioned above.

At first, I went the hard way. I bought a dry erase board, and scored lines into its surface with a dental tool to make a grid. It worked great... but really tore up the dry erase markers with that scored surface.

So I found a much simpler, MUCH CHEAPER solution than any of these above. I bought a large paper mat, with a grid on it for 5 dollars. I then took this to Kinkos, and had it laminated for 2 dollars. Bam. Instant, portable Dry Erase map grid. It's double sided too. Much easier to clean and carry around than a chessex mat, or a bunch of flocked dungeon walls-- and easier on the markers than a scratched dry erase board (also much lighter than the board as well).
_________________
Basic Action Games http://www.bashrpg.com

Check us out for free demos and downloads or visit us onFacebook.

[gamerprinter]

I've been working on an endless path thru forest, and endless caverns.

Someone suggested I create an Urban Endless Terrain, which is a tougher to create project, but certainly doable.

I was thinking a pseudo-midieval, modern and post-apoc urban Endless Terrain sets.

Got any good ideas or what you'd like to see in an Endless Terrain map?

Or other kinds of GM Accessory product?

[SavageRobby]

Off the top of my head:

Endless Swamps are a necessity. Preferably with swamp areas big enough for small boats, and but paths wide enough for groups to walk. It'd be really nice if some had dead ends, too.
Endless Rocky Terrain would be excellent - could be used for hills, mountains broken lands, etc.

Endless farmlands, village or something along those lines would be nice. Basically, a standard fantasy not-heavily-populated area.

Caverns don't do as much for me. Although its a cool idea, usually caves and caverns and dungeons are already mapped out (ie, not just "you're in a cavern", as opposed to swamps or forests or whatnot), and so an Endless Cavern product would be tougher to integrate.

[gamerprinter]

[quote="SavageRobby"]Off the top of my head:

Endless Swamps are a necessity. Preferably with swamp areas big enough for small boats, and but paths wide enough for groups to walk. It'd be really nice if some had dead ends, too.
So far all my Endless Path designs - almost ready for production, have at least one dead end per map, some of those dead ends lead to "encounter areas" defined areas only accessable by one path surrounded by some terrain obstacle - heavy trees, rocks, steep hill, ravine, etc. Then one where all paths connect on the same map - a sort of "crossroads place" in the terrain.

Swamps would be slightly problematic for an endless path terrain, there would less paths and path accesses on the map, since more area is untraverseable - ponds, bayous, watery muck areas, better for boats!

I got some ideas on a "highlands" terrain as well.

Someone on another forum asked if I could create "removeable" labels for things like "+20" for elevation - but not printed on the map. I can create a package of 60 each, 1 inch "static cling" decals that are transparent, except for a number or symbol printed in white. Quote price: $12.00 plus shipping.

So I can create a "lot" more than just maps.

[Treebore]

SavageRobby wrote:
Off the top of my head:

Endless Swamps are a necessity. Preferably with swamp areas big enough for small boats, and but paths wide enough for groups to walk. It'd be really nice if some had dead ends, too.
So far all my Endless Path designs - almost ready for production, have at least one dead end per map, some of those dead ends lead to "encounter areas" defined areas only accessable by one path surrounded by some terrain obstacle - heavy trees, rocks, steep hill, ravine, etc. Then one where all paths connect on the same map - a sort of "crossroads place" in the terrain.

Swamps would be slightly problematic for an endless path terrain, there would less paths and path accesses on the map, since more area is untraverseable - ponds, bayous, watery muck areas, better for boats!

I got some ideas on a "highlands" terrain as well.

Someone on another forum asked if I could create "removeable" labels for things like "+20" for elevation - but not printed on the map. I can create a package of 60 each, 1 inch "static cling" decals that are transparent, except for a number or symbol printed in white. Quote price: $12.00 plus shipping.

So I can create a "lot" more than just maps.

When you do mountain/hill/gully/etc... types of maps I would like to know the elevation per inch scale. Granted, I can "wing it", but I would like to know what it is supposed to be.

[gamerprinter]

I was thinking of including a b/w laser printed "Suggestions" sheet with delivery of every Endless Terrain Battlemap set.

Definitely, elevation change and scale would be somthing that would fall under suggestions.

On my Heavy Woodlands for example, anyone looking at the map, could say "Oh, I just take a short cut through this pond or heavy woods and I'm on a different path."

But a suggetion to the GM would be - if obstacles block the way, a walker on a path, wouldn't necessarily expect to find another unconnected path close by. Of course if that player's character's a druid or elf, or could fly then this is a "mute" point.

But, yes, especially since a map is "orthographic" or "bird's eye view" its difficult to show changes in elevation, as well as how high a given hill is.

These all would points I'd include in a hand-out shipped with product.

(Pardon me, I don't know how to make a short post!!! )

[moriarty777]

These look pretty sweet... If I used miniatures, I would certainly consider these. However, your other lamination services may be of some use. I've book marked the link.

Thanks for sharing!

Moriarty the Red
_________________
"You face Death itself in the form of... 1d4 Tarrasques!"

Partner to Brave Halfling Publishing
http://www.arcanacreations.com

[gamerprinter]

Something that will stick to a laminated map, won't come off even if you stick the map into the bathtub (?!) and then just peels off no adhesive.

Somebody on another forum ask me for something like above.

So I'm considering printing: symbols, "map objects" - fences, static streams, terrain pieces to hide traps/bodies/treasure, small buildings, wells, that kind of thing to "static cling" material.

At a guess right now a pack of 24, 2" x 2" Cling-Tiles for $9.95

This is not a product yet, but could be just around the corner...

What are your thoughts?

[Treebore]

gamerprinter wrote:
Something that will stick to a laminated map, won't come off even if you stick the map into the bathtub (?!) and then just peels off no adhesive.

Somebody on another forum ask me for something like above.

So I'm considering printing: symbols, "map objects" - fences, static streams, terrain pieces to hide traps/bodies/treasure, small buildings, wells, that kind of thing to "static cling" material.

At a guess right now a pack of 24, 2" x 2" Cling-Tiles for $9.95

This is not a product yet, but could be just around the corner...

What are your thoughts?

Sounds like something I would try out.

[serleran]

Non-adhesive stickies? Velcro?

I dunno, I'd have to see one... not just read about it.

[gamerprinter]

Hey guys. I haven't posted in several weeks, been busy. My project is only in its 100th day (Gamer Printshop), and I've been invited to share booth 1829 with GameMaster Syndicate at Gencon Indy!

So if any of you guys are at Gencon be sure to stop by my booth. If you ask for them I can show you my Endless Terrain Maps, but my real purpose at Gencon is support a membership launch and I'll be the POD shop printing and shipping the product. 22 color maps on display at the booth are printed by me.

Profantasy will have one map print by me, with "visit booth 1829" on it.

Goodman Games Dungeon Crawl Classics b/w and one color game maps are all printed by me, but you have to signup and play a session to view them.

So I've got product all over Gencon Indy.

Oh, large format color print prices dropped to $2.99 sq ft and lamination dropped some too.

Big things are happening! Hope to see you there!

[gideon_thorne]

gamerprinter wrote:
Oh, large format color print prices dropped to $2.99 sq ft and lamination dropped some too.

So 18x24 is about $9? Hmm...
_________________
"We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven

Peter Bradley

[gamerprinter]

Plus lamination, if you need it, that's $3.00, shipped in a 3 x 3 x 25 tube anywhere in North America - UPS shipping around $4.75 (cheaper to print more than one map, as far as shipping goes.)

So for $16.75 a printed 18 x 24 full color map laminated arriving at your door...

[gideon_thorne]

gamerprinter wrote:
Plus lamination, if you need it, that's $3.00, shipped in a 3 x 3 x 25 tube anywhere in North America - UPS shipping around $4.75 (cheaper to print more than one map, as far as shipping goes.)

So for $16.75 a printed 18 x 24 full color map laminated arriving at your door...

I wasn't thinking colour actually.

Any different price for something non colour?
_________________
"We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven

Peter Bradley

[gamerprinter]

You thought $9 was cheap! Ha!

B/W or Grayscale 18 x 24 is a $1.50, lamination is still $3.00, oh well.

Now your talkin' $9.25 at the door! or unlaminated and shipped for $6.50, do me a favor and send me more than one map.

[gideon_thorne]

gamerprinter wrote:
You thought $9 was cheap! Ha!

B/W or Grayscale 18 x 24 is a $1.50, lamination is still $3.00, oh well.

Now your talkin' $9.25 at the door! or unlaminated and shipped for $6.50, do me a favor and send me more than one map.

*smiles* Don't worry, for various things, one or two personal projects perhaps, I was thinking more than one.
_________________
"We'll go out through the kitchen!" Tanis Half-Elven

Peter Bradley

[Treebore]

Do you guys have a listing of who's products you have permission to print? I remember Necromancer, but I think you have mentioned several other publishers.
_________________
The Ruby Lord, Earl of the Society

Next Con I am attending: http://www.neoncon.com/

My House Rules: http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... llordgames

[gamerprinter]

Treebore wrote:
Do you guys have a listing of who's products you have permission to print? I remember Necromancer, but I think you have mentioned several other publishers.

In trying to build a "permissions list" from various RPG publishers, its turned out they seem more interested in working directly with me as a POD shop. When a purchase is made, the license fee to the publisher is included with the printing/laminating charges, unless a "free license" is made from a special offer by a publisher.

Anytime a map has permission to copy for personal use - its OK for me to print.

Although you'll find only one publisher currently listed on the shopping cart pages of the site, after Gencon, there will be several more right away, and more as time goes by.

Very few have given me actual "permission", going POD insures that the purchaser is getting a completely legal product, the publisher gets paid, and its a "win - win" situation.

[Tadhg]

Got hex?
_________________
Count Rhuveinus - Lejendary Keeper of Castle Franqueforte

"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax

"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth

[gamerprinter]

Grid is grid, I can put any kind of grid on a map.

My own horror story is that even though I've played Battletech, the guy I played with had a giant basement diorama with hex painted onto it. Never used a BT map - ever!

So I just did a 36 x 72 b/w blank BT hex map with 1 inch hex - I thought no problem. Then he said, "of course the top left hex needs at 0101 and so on..."

I had no idea what he was talking about, couldn't find an existing BT blank HEX map already numbered in digital format, so I hand typed of 4300 hexes with their appropriate numbers - aaaah! (but I got through it!)

Yes, I do Hex.

[serleran]

And tesseral inter-radial circles each with correspondence into the 3rd dimesnion, assuming a standard globe?

[moriarty777]

What about ordering this things north of the border? I wouldn't mind ordering some stuff down the line and would (obviously) be willing to pay more for shipping via USPS. UPS is the devil as far as I'm concerned with their 'Brokerage Fees' and such!

Moriarty the Red
_________________
"You face Death itself in the form of... 1d4 Tarrasques!"

Partner to Brave Halfling Publishing
http://www.arcanacreations.com

[serleran]

You buy it, ship it to me, and I'll bring it across the border into Crystal Beach? Maybe go as far as St Catharines, but that's a bit further... hehe.

[gamerprinter]

My very first customer was from Beaumont, AB Canada.

I have 4 regular Canadian customers who've purchased more than once.

You can visit, Johnn Four of Roleplayingtips.com - I've got ads in his newsletter, a lamination review and have done several things for John - he's from Edmonton.

I can ship UPS or USPS, UPS is not crazy expensive for US to Canada shipments and fairly fast.

[StealthSuitStanley]

An idea for the urban terrain would be found in the Zombies!!! game. Not as nice as what you are making, but the idea is there.

Also consider the Dungeoneer game for outdoor maps.

I do like the concept of double sided maps because there are more map tiles to use however, there is the issue of wanting to use two maps that are on opposite sides of the same card. Of course, two sets is always an option. An option I prefer to duplicate maps on several cards.
_________________
later

SSS

----------------------------

"Size matters not."

-Yoda, Jedi Master