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What is it?

None of them, with the right DM. Otherwise... umm, anything with a template, the template itself, and everything in MMIII and MMIV.

Tough question. Thinking back to the MM and Holmes. Most of them, if not all, were great. Sometimes the drawings of the monster made them look somewhat silly, but they weren't stupid. Or if they were stupid, a good DM could make them less stupid (or silly).

In general, methinks some of the newer monsters (in that silly/stupid version of D&D) are just ludricris, but not necessarily dumb, just stupid with regard to abilities and stats.
[Does anyone think my post is stupid or silly? I do]
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Rakshasas.

Or more accurately, rakshasa's hands.

I still have my original hardcover Monster Manual (circa 1981), in which the picture shows the rakshasa with perfectly normal hands, and not one word of the description says anything about the hands being backwards. Furthermore, even a little bit of research into the historical real-world rakshasa myths from India will reveal that nothing was ever said about their hands being peculiar in any way at all.

So I don't know when the "backwards hands" thing got added to the rakshasa in D&D/d20, but it wasn't there originally and somebody ought to slap the living crap out of whoever added it because it's the stupidest damned thing I've ever heard. Having the hands backwards like that would make it nearly impossible for the two hands to cooperate together on any task the wrists would have to cross each other to do so, thereby severely limiting the range of motion through which the hands could then move and all you need to do is look at any picture of a backwards-hand-rakshasa holding something with both hands to see how awkward and disfunctional the arrangement is.

It's unhistorical, it's illogical, and it's just plain stupid.

Rakshasas with functional hands were cool.

Rakshasas with backwards hands are friggin' retarded.

I hate 'em, I hate 'em, I HATE 'EM.

Sorry for the outburst. Just one of my pet peeves.

Besides, you asked.

For fighters and clerics with bad rolls, a Rust Monster. You can bet stupid will be the mildest of epthitets used.

Fortunately it's 3e only (I think), but the Phantom Fungus has got to be pretty high up on the list.

I hate stirges. Every other thief I have ran has somehow become cursed with stirge bait and has ended in stirge dinner. I hate stirges.

Now, the dumbist monsters ever were the ones created at wotc for their monster contest which was won by meepo over of all things a tarrasque. I think the contest even had a behir paladin. thank god for gamers and cnc and their lack of number crunching.

Seconded. There was a succubus paladin with a vrock mount, amongst other oddities.

mordrene wrote:
Now, the dumbist monsters ever were the ones created at wotc for their monster contest which was won by meepo over of all things a tarrasque. I think the contest even had a behir paladin. thank god for gamers and cnc and their lack of number crunching.

Seriously most new D&D 3.5 monsters. This thread just makes me angry thinking about the dumbness.
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