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I'm interested in the movie. But I'm much more interested in the last book to see if my theories prove sound. ^_^

That being said, movie #5 will be vastly interesting to me just to see what they do with the Weasley Twins and their grand theatrics. ^_~`
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gideon_thorne wrote:
That being said, movie #5 will be vastly interesting to me just to see what they do with the Weasley Twins and their grand theatrics. ^_~`

Yep, a ton of material here. A true test for a director to use and/or discard stuff to make a 2+ hour film. Hope they do it well!!!
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Course, until I read the books, the idea of a 7 part phylactery never occured to me before either.
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I'm curious what they're gonna do with it. I didn't enjoy the fourth movie as much because of its large departure from the book, I hope they don't do the same thing with the fifth one.

Definitely looking forward to the 5th movie. Yeah, I'm hooked since I never really read the books. Bring it on.

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Omote wrote:
Definitely looking forward to the 5th movie. Yeah, I'm hooked since I never really read the books. Bring it on.

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Really???

Dude, seriously - you are in for a treat if you read the books!! Honestly, think the movie Dune, LoTRs and so many others.

The books are 10+ times better than the movies and I'm a huge fan of the screen versions.

Of course, as I've said here many time, one must separate the media in their minds and NOT try to compare them.

Anywho, you WILL be rewarded by reading the books!!

13 days and counting for my Saturday delivery of HP 7!!!
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Nor I... very devious, indeed.

I'm excited to see the new movie, but moreso for the final book. I have a feeling that it's going to be a monser of a book to lug around, though.

gideon_thorne wrote:
Course, until I read the books, the idea of a 7 part phylactery never occured to me before either.

Rhuvein wrote:
The books are 10+ times better than the movies and I'm a huge fan of the screen versions.

Indeed so! The first movie got me to read the books. Otherwise I would have avoided them altogether. I'm picky about what I read and I was not disappointed in the Potter books. I actually liked the main characters better once I read the books.

They were a bit too goody goody in the movies.
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I love the books, but have found the movies largely unwatchable. Damn near every bit of charm and character development from the books seems to be sucked out in the translation to the screen. Granted, Emma Watson is growing up nicely, but I think she's still probably jail bait at my age.

My favorite Potter screen adaptation has got to be the first one. Overall, I did enjoy it immensely. I enjoyed the second one too. However, the Goblet of Fire left me a bit cold... probably because of too much material being cut. I have high hopes for the Order of the Phoenix though.

Personally, I find the decision to cast Alan Rickman in the role of Snape was fantastic!

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Yeah, the first one was pretty much spot on. The second and third were pretty good, but the fourth was just changed too much. Still a decent movie, though.

Jyrdan Fairblade wrote:
I'm excited to see the new movie, but moreso for the final book. I have a feeling that it's going to be a monser of a book to lug around, though.

That's the best part! Probably still won't stop me from finishing it the first day it comes out.
I love long books and movies.

moriarty777 wrote:
Personally, I find the decision to cast Alan Rickman in the role of Snape was fantastic!

Moriarty the Red

Absolutely. Watson, Gint & Radcliff aside, the casting for the professors, Malfoy senior & Dumbledore (Harris anyway) was inspired.

Maggie Smith is outstanding. Coltrane great. I love the guy who played Lupin. Oh and Julie Waters as Mrs. Weasley - fabulous. Even Warwick Davis in his few scenes had been great.

Light movie screen fun for sure.
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I read the 1st book, then I watched the movie. I thought that the translation between the two was pretty excellent. As the following movies came out, I enjoyed all of them so decided not to read the books any further.

One reason that the Goblet of Fire film was so different from the books, is because the novel is like 700+ pages long. You can't get that kind of detail into the film version, even if the film is 4 hours long. Goblet of Fire and ORder of the Phoenix are too long to translate directly into film. There was talk for a little while about splitting Goblet of Fire into two films. JK Rowling herself rejected the idea, even at the expense of the cut material. JKR has a lot of influence on how these movies are protrayed on film. She gives her OK with every picture. To me, that says a lot. Perhaps at the end of the film series in 2010 I will pick the books up and read them from start to finish. Until them, I will enjoy the films as they are.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

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I read the first three or first four. First four, I think, but stopped. The first two were excellent, but for some reason they stopped being as interesting. (And this from a guy who still thinks the Wheel of Time, even including books 7-9, is interesting.) My wife loves 'em, though. The last one is coming out on her birthday, so she's going to stay up, pick it up at the midnight release and probably read 'til she keels over, asleep.

Once the movies are all over, though, I will likely go finish the books.

My wife and I are going to see it tonight, on an IMAX screen.

I could never get into Harry Potter: English school boy goes to get good grades and become popular at school.

I don't want to get into Harry Potter. I'll watch the movies if the yum says she wants to, but I'm not going to read them or watch them on my own. Admittedly, there are a very few minor things that are interesting, but nothing, and not enough, to make me care.

I hope Harry dies in the last book.

slimykuotoan wrote:
I could never get into Harry Potter: English school boy goes to get good grades and become popular at school.

Heh, not exactly. He's a troubled youth who struggles in school, even if he does have a great knack for magic and survival.

While popular with readers and movie goers, he less than popular at school. And at times, everybody at Hogwarts is pissed at him, including his close friends. Many time his house mates don't believe him or like him.

Heck, Malfoy is probably more popular.
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Serleran! That's not nice...

But I felt the same way, until they did that hippogriff and Hermione started growing up...

Harry Potter is something I could never get into; books or movies.

I don't think them full of suck, I just don't find them to be my thing.

I rarely read fiction these days, although I am reading American Gods now. As far as movies go, I prefer movies of a different sort.

Well, we went to see Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix tonight, and I must say it did not disappoint. Their new director and screenwriter both did a superb job, and I was surprised at how well done the film was. Even though the fifth book is the largest of the series (870 pages), they managed to get the bulk of the plot in a two-hour movie that flows and entertains the audience throughout. As a die-hard fan of the novels, I say it portrayed the book very well. Its fight scenes, special effects, and music were also outstanding.

In my opinion, this is easily the best of the movies so far. Whether or not you are a fan of the books, I think you will really enjoy this film.

I saw it yesterday as well, and it was pretty good. The strobe like montage sequences I found to be unpleasant. Otherwise a worthy addition to the series.

I enjoyed it, but I would have enjoyed it more were it an hour longer and someone had thrown out the teenagers who kept getting up and moving round and texting each other on their cell phones.
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I saw it last night and enjoyed it.
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Wow, I thought HP5 stunk... on it's own that is. This movie was not a complete film. There's a rough beginning, and a whole lot of instances where you need to know what happened in the book, or be really, really familiar with the previous films in order to know what was going on. I got lost a few times. While, by itself HP5 was not a good movie, as part of the whole it was enjoyable.

Having not read the book, I am left with many questions.

Anf GT is right, if any movie needed to be 1 hour longer, it was this movie. HP5 needed smoother transitions between scenes, and a lot more time in the editing room.

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There is a lot of subtext that you don't catch if you don't read the series. I was one of those who wasn't going to have anything to do with the HP series, and me being something of a reading addict, until I saw the first film.

I borrowed a friends copy of the first book then bought the entire series right after I finished it.

Although, bear in mind, its not neccesarilly all the 'magic' stuff that I found interesting, although some of it is pretty cool. Its how the author captured the personalities of british kids growing up that impressed me.

Actually, I liked Harry Potter better, as a character, when I read the books, cause in the movies he tends to irritate me as one of those 'too good' characters. In the books, he's a normal snarky kid like the rest of em. ^_~`

Although, as characters go, the Weasley Twins are more my speed. I always did like the maverick's. ^_^
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The Weasley twins, Luna Lovegood and Tonks are some of my favorite characters in the books. 'Course I always had a soft spot for the outsider and cracked types.
What holds me to the books is not only the story but also the lore that is in them. The wizarding world is nicely fleshed out and there seems to be a nice logic to it. Ms. Rowling really set things down well when she origianlly envisioned the series. If Harry Potter RPG came out that really fleshed the world out more I would be buying it in a heartbeat.

As a note: I wasn't a fan 'til a friend got me to watch the first movie and my wife got me to read the books.
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Omote wrote:
Wow, I thought HP5 stunk... on it's own that is. This movie was not a complete film. There's a rough beginning, and a whole lot of instances where you need to know what happened in the book, or be really, really familiar with the previous films in order to know what was going on. I got lost a few times. While, by itself HP5 was not a good movie, as part of the whole it was enjoyable.

Having not read the book, I am left with many questions.

Anf GT is right, if any movie needed to be 1 hour longer, it was this movie. HP5 needed smoother transitions between scenes, and a lot more time in the editing room.

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Interesting, we would've said exactly that about the fourth movie. My father only got halfway through the book, but even he was disappointed by how much was left out of the movie, and how "choppy" its plot seemed to be. On the other hand, he hadn't read any of book 5, yet he found the movie to be smooth, comprehensible, and enjoyable. YMMV, I guess.

Dragonmaster Dyne, interesting indeed, as I generally found HP4 to be relatively smooth, and complete as a movie. Hmm, weird. I guess it all comes down to... something. *shrugs*
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Dragonmaster Dyne, interesting indeed, as I generally found HP4 to be relatively smooth, and complete as a movie. Hmm, weird. I guess it all comes down to... something. *shrugs*
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I'm curious, did you read the book? The film was probably more enjoyable to people who were not fans of the books, since they didn't know what they were getting into. However, for us readers, the film was drastically different from the book. So many things were altered that I didn't really understand what was going on, and the sheer number of changes was enough to warrant a rather lengthy section on wikipedia listing all the differences.

In summary: The film has a very different "feel". The male characters all have longer hair, as though they tried to make them look "cool". The omission of the Dursleys at the beginning of the story would be akin to omitting the opening crawls of the Star Wars movies, and it totally missed out on an opportunity for some Fred and George fun. The entire Quidditch World Cup skipped from the beginning of the game to "Woohoo! Ireland won!"; this section took up a humongous section of the book, but it only occupied a couple minutes of the movie. I didn't like the Death Eaters wearing tall pointed hoods in the style of the Ku Klux Klan, I found it somewhat disturbing. Beauxbatons and Durmstrang were turned into all-girl/all-boy schools (respectively); what happens if you're a boy in France or a girl in Bulgaria? Well, I guess you get left out of the fancy choreographed introductions. Significant portions of the plot were omitted or altered, probably to leave room for more flashy/action sequences. A lengthy subplot about Hermione trying to liberate House Elves was omitted, though admittedly it didn't have a whole lot to do with the main plot. The Marauder's Map and Sorting Hat don't seem to exist anymore. Barty Crouch Jr. was given a tongue-clicking quirk, seemingly just to make the book's cunning ending more obvious to the audience. Moreover, they stuck him in scenes he didn't belong, as though to say "This is the bad guy! If you instead read the book, you would have to wait until the end to find this out." They don't explain how Barty Crouch Jr. escapes from Azkaban, or even what happens to him at the end of the movie.

Goblet of Fire is still my favorite book of the series, but the movie didn't really portray anything at all that I liked about the book. The book was written more like an English mystery with tons of magic and Quidditch goodness, while the film is basically an action movie. The actors were all superb, as usual for the HP films. I'm glad others enjoyed it so much, but it ruffled my feathers how much they changed my favorite story.

I suspect the different viewpoints may be based on differing positions of reader vs. non-reader, or perhaps preferences of mystery vs. action. Then again, the fourth movie omitted a ton of stuff that explain things in the fifth movie.