Which Version of The Forgotten Realms do you prefer?

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:44 pm

Pretty straight forward.
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Philotomy Jurament · Post by **Philotomy Jurament** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:29 pm

If I must pick one, I'd pick the greybox. I'm not really a FR fan, though. Sometimes I wish they'd live up to their name and really be forgotten. [Not really -- I don't mind that other people enjoy the FR.]
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SoulCatcher78 · Post by **SoulCatcher78** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:30 pm

I loved the 1e set with the supplements like Waterdeep and the North (coolest Beholder art ever on the cover) and Empires of the Sands. Once they passed that level of detail it began to get a little crowded in what was once an enjoyable setting. Don't get me wrong, some of the later material was well done (i.e. Serpent Kingdoms and Lost Empires of Faerun) but it seemed to squeeze everything too tight and there just wasn't enough room to move after a point.

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:32 pm

There are versions?
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:23 pm

Era then.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:44 pm

While I preferred the tone of the greybox I had to vote for 2nd Edition.

Faiths & Avatars and Demihuman Deities were some of the coolest FR books out there. Yeah, they had "splat" elements to them but the sheer amount of religious organization fluff mixed in was awesome.

I liked the few 2nd edition FR box sets I picked up as well.

Just wasn't a setting I played in more than a handful of times though. I had some Greyhawkin' to do!

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:19 pm

Second had alot of good stuff. The North boxed set comes to mind quickly.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:28 pm

Generally for FR I ignore Novels, and anything related to the Avatar Trilogy. Other than that most of the 1E and 2E material is very useable.

I even like the guide books.
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:55 pm

The novels are one area that never interfered in my games. I read the novels for fun but will only bring in things from them on occasion. The ToT was a good idea very poorly executed.
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SoulCatcher78 · Post by **SoulCatcher78** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:05 am

Julian Grimm wrote:
The novels are one area that never interfered in my games. I read the novels for fun but will only bring in things from them on occasion. The ToT was a good idea very poorly executed.

There's a sample chapter up for the new Drzz't book...wow, feel your eyes pop when you read it.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:14 am

Julian Grimm wrote:
The novels are one area that never interfered in my games. I read the novels for fun but will only bring in things from them on occasion. The ToT was a good idea very poorly executed.

Yeah, the idea of Time of Troubles was awesome, but I agree that the execution sucked, which was reinforced by the modules.

I read the Novels too, even liked them and incorporated the story ideas for my players to do, but they were far from canon.
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:49 am

SoulCatcher78 wrote:
There's a sample chapter up for the new Drzz't book...wow, feel your eyes pop when you read it.

Nice. Sounds like things in Faerun's future do not look good.
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SoulCatcher78 · Post by **SoulCatcher78** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:07 am

Even if it's a lead in for 4e (possible), I think it will add some new life to the setting. Plus there're all those ruins to dig around in now...I wonder how Undermountain will fare in the latest version (I know they killed off Halaster (boo hiss)). It was time for a reset anyway, the ToT era didn't really change that much (wild/dead magic areas) but it seems as if there's going to be some blasts from the past (Netheril!!!) coming up.

Some of the people on the WotC boards are thinking this is from the middle of the book (I guess it could be but why?) and that there's some more explanation that isn't shown. It'll at least be an interesting read IMO.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:13 am

They must have missed the part that said Prelude at the beginning. I imagine the future novels will show hints of what happens in the future and gear up for the Spellplague. I'm glad to actually see Oboulds kingdom survives since I loved the idea of this from the last series. I'm definately going to pay more attention to the novels for awhile to see what happens.

One thing I have to give WOTC is that even though there is a RSE every other week now it makes sense that it is leading to something. The jury will be out to how much I use but I'm interested as a fan of the Novel Realms what's happening there.
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:34 am

I have some FR stuff from all eras. Honestly, I like them all to one degree or another, but never liked the world overall as a whole. The MOST FR gaming material I ever read was the 3rd edition Campaign Setting. I read that book cover to cover, and frankly, crunch aside the 3rd edition book is fantastic! So much information in one place. IMO, the best FR product released to date... although THE NORTH box set is damn cool too, but just doesn't cover all that much info comapred the the 3eFRCS.

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Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:19 am

I voted for "my version" which was a mix of 1e & 2e supplements.

I enjoyed the early book but they just kept making morte & more & more.......
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rabindranath72 · Post by **rabindranath72** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:38 am

1e all the way. In this implementation it was the only AD&D setting which could compare with the "setup" of the Classic D&D Gazetteers; enough information and lots of details to run games, but no canon to follow. And no Times of Troubles
I wish Dragonlance had been written in this way...

Dyne · Post by **Dyne** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:52 pm

I'm not really sure. Which "version" was the old Baldur's Gate game?

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:55 pm

I sort of prefer the one where FR, as a whole, doesn't exist... just little bits and pieces of it. Therefore, an amalgam homebrew with only the parts that are useful (which isn't a whole lot.)

Too bad they couldn't keep FR toned down.

Moorcrys · Post by **Moorcrys** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:23 pm

Grew up with Greyhawk, but I enjoyed the first edition gray box of the Forgotten Realms... it was the first big world after Greyhawk I was exposed to, so I really was fascinated to see someone else's fantasy vision make it to print.

As someone posted above, though, I think Faiths and Avatars for 2nd Edition Forgotten Realms is in the top 3 of my favorite supplements ever... it was a great, detailed book and I used its style and presentation extensively when I wrote up deities and clerics for my homebrew. I'm still creating a 'sphere' driven priest class for C&C because of that book, while leaving the military-bent cleric as is.
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:32 pm

Dyne wrote:
I'm not really sure. Which "version" was the old Baldur's Gate game?

2nd edition Forgotten Realms, fo sho!

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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:33 pm

Damn. Now I want to install Baldur's Gate and play.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:35 pm

Damn fun games. Throne of Baal = baaadassss! Good stuff.

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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:38 pm

Omote wrote:
Damn fun games. Thone of Baal = baaadassss! Good stuff.

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Yeah, ToB was supremely badass.

Think I might start up the original BG game, I never did complete the Tales of the Sword Coast (or whatever it was called) expansion.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:44 pm

The other expansion that I was aware of was called Shadows of Ahm.

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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:46 pm

Omote wrote:
The other expansion that I was aware of was called Shadows of Ahm.

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I think that was the name of the main BG2 game. ToB was the expansion for that.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:50 pm

Damn, why can't I remember the Tales of the Sword Coast name? Hmm. As I recall, I played Baulder's Gate and 2 expansions.

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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:53 pm

OK, pulled out my discs so I can be sure for now.

You've got the original Baldur's Gate. Big stinking quest towards besting Saervok (or whatever his name was)

The expansion for BG was Tales of the Sword coast. Added a large dungeon. This is the expansion I never completed.

Then BG2: Shadows of Amn came out. You could lay this one without BG 1.

The expansion for BG2 was Throne of Bhaal.

DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:55 pm

Installing the original BG now. I know what I'll be doing later tonight. Mwuahahahhaha.

Omote · Post by **Omote** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:56 pm

You are 100% correct sir! I never played the Tales of the Sword Coast expansion... that makes me want to play it. Fuhgetaboutit. I just got a 360.

All this talk on good computer RPGs is making me sick to play...

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