Man, I miss TSR...

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:13 pm

serleran wrote:
No, I don't have that CD, or the box. Can't say I want it, either. I did have some self-modified stuff pulled from the Red Steel box set CD, though, back when I was messing with CD rippers and things like SoundForge. Those were lost though, and never any good (except to my ears because they were funny... to me.)

Ah well. First Quest is actually really good. It explains the rules of AD&D in about 16 pages and does a better job of it than the core rulebooks, as it actually includes important information left out of the 2e books...

The CD is hilarious, though. Many is the time I have regailed new players with the First Quest CD (though not during the first session, generally).

Now that's heroism...
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Prince of Happiness · Post by **Prince of Happiness** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:15 pm

Matthew wrote:
Nah, it was directly proportional to the size of your moustache or, failing that, the horns on your helmet. Only the ladies had perms, that Barbarian guy is some sort of abberation.

Maybe the barbarian's just a really ugly* lady. As long as she's not a hideousMUNSTER!

*well, not that ugly...pretty, pretty princess in a beefy sort-of-way...that is a woman, right?

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:26 pm

Prince of Happiness wrote:
I see from the video that in those days, heroism was directly proportional to the size of your perm. PERMAMANCER!!!11

This is opposed to today's heroism being directly affected by looking like a femboy or an anime reject.
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Prince of Happiness · Post by **Prince of Happiness** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:28 pm

Julian Grimm wrote:
This is opposed to today's heroism being directly affected by looking like a femboy or an anime reject.

OH NO! LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU, IT'S ANIME!!!

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:28 pm

Prince of Happiness wrote:
OH NO! LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU, IT'S ANIME!!!

Gah! Where?

Seriously, though, it's interesting to note that Anime does present an analogue with regard to 'cool hair' = 'cool character', where cool remains *very* subjective. I guess it's just a natural part of the visual presentation of characters. I always rather liked Val Kilmer's hair in Willow...
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Prince of Happiness · Post by **Prince of Happiness** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:35 pm

Matthew wrote:
Seriously, though, it's interesting to note that Anime does present an analogue with regard to 'cool hair' = 'cool character', where cool remains *very* subjective. I guess it's just a natural part of the visual presentation of characters. I always rather liked Val Kilmer's hair in Willow...

Well, hair n' fashion and perceptions of cool go back...forever, everywhere. I mean, even to this day you'll find girls squealing over red-spikey haired femboy David Bowie. :p

Of course, straight cueball with a big beard is always a classic S&S look that says "FEAR ME." Good stuff, right there.

Jyrdan Fairblade · Post by **Jyrdan Fairblade** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:00 pm

Heh. In the words of Graystache, "Moustache power activate!"

My next character will definitely have a mighty moustache.

Matthew wrote:
Nah, it was directly proportional to the size of your moustache or, failing that, the horns on your helmet. Only the ladies had perms, that Barbarian guy is some sort of abberation.

DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:19 pm

Mustaches are the source of all knightly virtue. Just ask the Solamnics of Dragonlance.

And Highway Patrol troopers.

Prince of Happiness · Post by **Prince of Happiness** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:34 pm

DangerDwarf wrote:
Mustaches are the source of all knightly virtue. Just ask the Solamnics of Dragonlance.

And Highway Patrol troopers.

That just reminded me of the morning briefing from Super Troopers:

"Shut up rookie, you don't even have a mustache yet."

Snaebjorn · Post by **Snaebjorn** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:09 pm

Spelljammer....Star Trek meets AD&D...it's like Porn for Nerds!!!
Tony

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:14 pm

Jyrdan Fairblade wrote:
My next character will definitely have a mighty moustache.

Heh, heh. I very frequently include at least one NPC Fighter or Cleric with a moustache to be proud of in my campaigns. They are typically of the 'heroic' stamp. I think the D&D cartoon features just such a character in the episode with the prison in a volcano, Bobby's birthday or something.

Anyway, this guy gets it:

I wouldn't be surprised to find that they all played Spelljammer...

Also:

Saint Cuthbert, apparently. I wish I had a scanner available so I could post up some of the internal art I'm thinking of from they hey day of AD&D, but I'm sure you're all familiar with it for the most part anyway.
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Prince of Happiness · Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:20 pm

Matthew wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised to find that they all played Spelljammer...

Naw, it'd probably be a homebrew, something like The Necromongers of the Infernal Pits of Astyranix or something awesome suitably awesome. If "Faceripper" can be fit in there, it should.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:32 pm

Prince of Happiness wrote:
Naw, it'd probably be a homebrew, something like The Necromongers of the Infernal Pits of Astyranix or something awesome suitably awesome. If "Faceripper" can be fit in there, it should.

You might well be right about that, but it'd probably still be Spelljammer at heart...
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Prince of Happiness · Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:35 pm

Matthew wrote:
You might well be right about that, but it'd probably still be Spelljammer at heart...

Hawkwind?

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:50 pm

Prince of Happiness wrote:
Hawkwind?

Heh, heh. Very suitable, maybe Hawkjammer...
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Prince of Happiness · Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:06 pm

Matthew wrote:
Heh, heh. Very suitable, maybe Hawkjammer...

I would so play that.

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:08 pm

The Hawkwinds of the Spelljammed Facerippers of the Doomed Earth! Wait, that's GammaJammer.

Prince of Happiness · Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:10 pm

serleran wrote:
The Hawkwinds of the Spelljammed Facerippers of the Doomed Earth! Wait, that's GammaJammer.

Yup, I would roll up the Dirgelord of the Timestreams.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:46 pm

Prince of Happiness wrote:
I would so play that.

Maybe you could apply to be a Play Tester? If the Trolls pick up the license, we'd all benefit...
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:13 am

Spelljammer? Naw it was more like Assjammer.
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Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:15 am

Julian Grimm wrote:
Spelljammer? Naw it was more like Assjammer.

I wouldn't diss the Jammer if I were you, the Elven Imperial Navy might come round and kick your ass...
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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:17 am

Matthew wrote:
I wouldn't diss the Jammer if I were you, the Elven Imperial Navy might come round and kick your ass...

Elven Imperial... what!? Um. No.

j/k Matthew.

What?

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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:27 am

Sorry but 'Pigs in space' has more credibility than D&D innnnnn Spaaaaaace ever will.
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Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:30 am

Julian Grimm wrote:
Sorry but 'Pigs in space' has more credibility than D&D innnnnn Spaaaaaace ever will.

Spelljammer probably had that... it certainly had Hippo Men in space
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deimos3428 · Post by **deimos3428** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:33 am

Julian Grimm wrote:
Sorry but 'Pigs in space' has more credibility than D&D innnnnn Spaaaaaace ever will.

Well, it's not quite space, and they're not quite pigs, but this was pretty close.. http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/miscpag ... s/pc2.html

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:06 pm

Yes I sadly remember that as well. And this was the same guy that rewrote Greyhawk...
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Deogolf · Post by **Deogolf** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:42 pm

I thought SpellJammer was actually pretty cool! To each its own, I guess.
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JediOre · Post by **JediOre** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:35 pm

I thought "Pigs in Space" was the best segment of The Muppets. Loved 'em.

I didn't like much, okay nothing, that came out of 2nd Edition.

I did buy SpaceJammer as I was interested, but I didn't like the direction it took the game.

Yamo · Post by **Yamo** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:54 pm

I really liked Dark Sun. Grim, gritty stuff with a real old-school swords & sorcery feel. One of the few things TSR did right in the 90s. Of course, they still managed to screw it up later when the radically messed with the world in the supplements... Sigh.

DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:10 am

I loved the concept of Dark Sun. I hated 2nd Edition psionics however. So, it was a mixed bag for me. The novels kicked ass.