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Treebore wrote:
The crazy weather patterns are thanks to global warming.
Julian Grimm wrote:
Climate changes as a naturally occouring cycle mixed with a pole switch, I believe. Al Gore's sky is falling scare tactics I don't.
CharlieRock wrote:
I drove through Lee's Summit yesterday. I noticed before (Blue Springs) and after (Kansas City) the skies were clear. While under Lee's Summit it poured freezing rain so fast my windshield froze over and I had to pull over to rescrape it.
Today, same thing (only had to pull over once though) same place. What is up, Lee's Summit?!
Julian Grimm wrote:
Climate changes as a naturally occouring cycle mixed with a pole switch, I believe. Al Gore's sky is falling scare tactics I don't.
Rhuvein wrote:
That's asinine. Facts, evidence and scientific research has nothing to do with Al Gore. He's just presenting that information to the world.
And yes, global warming is scary. Fools who wish to shrug it off because the don't like the bearer of bad news ~ remain fools.
Eisenmann wrote:
Who's the fool when running down a fool's errand?
Julian Grimm wrote:
I meant that to be Al Gore's as being the face of the scare tactics. As for the facts I have seen too much bandwagon junk science to believe politicos in white lab coats pushing an agenda.
I heard it best on an episode of Penn and Teller's show that cannot be named here: When the tyrants come they'll be wearing lab coats.
Catweazle wrote:
It'd make a change from shiny boots or funny hats, to be sure.
OK, some unpalatable facts:
1- The climate of the Earth is demonstrably and unarguably changing faster than it has since the last glacial period.
2- Earth's climate is already unstable, and has been since the end of the Pliocene.
3- Despite this, the overwhelming majority of climatologists agree that the current trends are based directly on human interference.
4- The Sun has been ruled out as a cause - in fact, if it has been having an effect, it has been a mitigating one rather than an exacerbating one.
5- As well as global warming, so much CO2 has been added to the atmosphere in the last few decades that it is lowering the pH of the Earth's oceans. The shells of creatures with calcium carbonate skeletons are thinning as a result.
6- The large oil internationals are thgrowing around millions, literally, to find anyone willing to get up on a podium and say that everything is quite normal. Despite this huge cash incentive, see point 3 above.
6- It doesn't actually matter whose fault it is.
7- IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHOSE BLOODY FAULT IT IS!
Ahem. Sorry.
This scientist-hate seems to me to be just another case of the rampant anti-intellectualism that is rife in Western society at the moment, coupled with a very real (and understandable) desire to kill the messenger with the bas news and listen to someone, anyone, who will tell us that everything's all right and we don't need to worry.
Anyway, this is the "crappy weather" thread, not the "scientists are evil and lying to us" thread. We already had that one, and this minor threadjack would probably, I think, be best redirected there.
Dragonhelm wrote:
Where you from, CharlieRock?
Julian Grimm wrote:
[Self Moderated]
Eisenmann wrote:
Oh yea? Well, I won the school spelling bee in 6th grade. So there, Rhuvein!
Rhuvein wrote:
Good boy. You're learning!
Julian Grimm wrote:
I'm just trying not to let my natural gruffness take over in conversations like this.