Troll Lord Games

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?p ... ost2971795

Then check out this thread, check out his 3E d20 program, and then encourage him with "me too" after my post requesting a C&C version. Since he is only looking for $10 for the 3E version, when he gets the final version put together, I am sure I would be thrilled with the C&C version.

I like his program for 3E so much I think i could actually get talked into DMing it again with this program.

Check out the thread and program. Then tell him your interested too.

The Troll Lords should talk to this guy too.

So should GR for their True20 and Monte for his Arcana Evolved and Iron Heroes.

Done! Here's to hoping he can be persuaded. I could use a good C&C program.

Speaking of which, anyone else got any good tools for C&C? I seem to remember a Character program posted a few weeks ago, but can't remember where.

meepo wrote:
Done! Here's to hoping he can be persuaded. I could use a good C&C program.

Speaking of which, anyone else got any good tools for C&C? I seem to remember a Character program posted a few weeks ago, but can't remember where.

I have been using one that is home brew for some time now. I asked the Trolls if I can release it for free but never got any answer. It's simple to use and produces a nifty character sheet with all relevant info on it. I've used it at the various games I demoed at a local store, and everyone liked the character sheets. Here is an example of a character sheet I printed with my program...
http://rpgmtl.com:8080/download/monk_1.PDF
http://rpgmtl.com:8080/download/monk_2.pdf

The program has a few items missing in it, such as a weight calculater for items carried, and I still have to design a monster interface. The idea is to have the DM and players creat the characters on the program, therefor never having to worry about someone forgetting to bring their sheet with them. That's happened a few times! Also, I created a report that prints all the NPCs and the stats for any campaign. I usually print out a fresh copy before I head out for a game.

Anyhow... I'll see about posting the latest version online for people to try it, but I don't want to get in trouble with anyone. The program does have alot of racial and class info summerized firectly out of the PHB and even a list of all the spelld. Ideally, I want to have the complete spell descripiotn in there as well as all the mosnter stats.

later!

Jynx

I've added in my latest SETUP.EXE program to my downloads. In it are the various characters in my campaigns as well as all the data I entered for the program. If anyone is interested then give it a try. It's not perfect, never will be - nothing ever is, but I am constantly looking to improve it.

Also, there is an example of my NPC LIST SHEET as a PDF, along with the sample character sheets for my Monl character.
HEY TROLLS.... any chance I can get permissin to distribute this if it turns out to be usefull to some?

Thanks
http://rpgmtl.com:8080/download

Jynx, wow - that things rocks my socks!

Edit: Never mind, figured it out

email steve at troll@trolllord.com. explain what this is and ask him. he will peruse it and send it to legal and they will get back to us. there is something funky about programs of this nature. btu ask. I will remin him tomorrow when I see him next.

davis

Jynx is not who I was talking about, BTW. This guy just said he is willing to do Castle and Crusades if it is as easy as I said it is.

So even if your not interested go over to the thread I linked and lie. You really should check out his free Beta version for d20 even if you hate d20. Then imagine it for C&C. We really should encourage this guy, especially if he is willing to do a version for $10.00.

Trolls, I really think you guys should take the initiative and approach him.

Sorry...

I probably shouldn't have interjected in this thread.
I have absolutely nothing to do with digitalbluefrog, but I have used their program and it is indeed a good program. I've used several programs like that, the one I stuck to while I DMed 3.5, was the e_Tools put out by Code Monkey, but I gave it all up when I switched to C&C. I did see a need for a C&C program (or atleast I wanted it for myself) so I wrote my own.

In any case, I didn't want to confuse people and make them think that I'm responsible for the intial program mentioned in this thread. I have my own that is already written with C&C in mind.

As for getting the Trolls to look at it, I simply find it very difficult to get ahold of them. I've had this program for 4+ months now and haven't bothered to re-approach them cause I didn't think anyone would be interested. HECK... I can't get them to answer my email about my order, let alone a stupid program I wrote 4 months back.
Anyhow, Treebore, I apologize for hijacking your intial thread.

...Jynx

Jynx wrote:
HECK... I can't get them to answer my email about my order, let alone a stupid program I wrote 4 months back.

I'll make Steve and or Davis aware of this.

Just an fyi, sometimes Steve's email has a hard time with certain other email services. AOL in particular, and a few others I've noticed.

If folks can't get an email to them, send it to me and I'll make sure they are aware of it. Especially, in particular, if its an order.
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Jynx,

I was in no way, shape, or form upset about any hi jack/thread jack. I'm all for sharing good info. In fact I have downloaded and installed your program and hope to play with it tonight.

I just made my post to make sure others were clear that you were not who I was talking about in my OP.

So no worries. Besides, I am way more thick skinned than that.

Sorry about that...

Meepo,

What are you apologizing for? So far your the only one other than me that seems interested in getting BlueFrog to do C&C software.

I unintentionally hijacked the thread with my comment - should have started a new thread. My bad!

(and yeah, BlueFrog is pretty cool looking. I hope he'll consider C&Cin' it!)

Treebore wrote:
Meepo,

What are you apologizing for? So far your the only one other than me that seems interested in getting BlueFrog to do C&C software.

Tree--

Nah, Don't say that. If moist forum Trolls are like me, they read a post like that and think, "Hmm, that would be cool," but they never actualy type a response. Except in this case. Because I am typing words right now. But not for long. I think I'll stop now and continue trolling...TTFN!

--Ghul

Treebore wrote:
Jynx,

I was in no way, shape, or form upset about any hi jack/thread jack. I'm all for sharing good info. In fact I have downloaded and installed your program and hope to play with it tonight.

I just made my post to make sure others were clear that you were not who I was talking about in my OP.

So no worries. Besides, I am way more thick skinned than that.

COOL!

As for BlueFrog, they do seem very open to new ideas so it can't be at all difficult to change up the program and adapt it to C&C. Althoug, there are a ton of 3.0 specific items in there. The one thing he has which C&C doens't, is the SRD which saves him having to type all that stuff up. He simply imports the data into his databsae and he's done. For C&C, I know I had to do this, he will have to type it all in unless the trolls give him permission to use some data sheet they've got.

That is why I keep saying the Trolls really should contact him, not vice versa.

Give him permission, etc... Lawyers blood, etc...

Neat program. If I ever run 3rd again I will buy it. My small brain can not keep track of all the numbers.

Having a set of C&C libraries would be neat too, not sure if I would use them a lot, but the option would be neat. Its a steal for 10 bucks.

Yeah, I do think the program is awesome enough that it could make DMing 3E bearable.

A C&C version for $10 would be a serious deal in my book.

Ghul wrote:
Nah, Don't say that. If moist forum Trolls are like me...

Eww, I never want to meet up with one of them!
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Everytime I see a computer program for a RPG, my first thought is "why?" If all it does is keep track of DM materials, rather than create them (treasure hoards, monster encounters, dungeons, and artifacts), it seems rather pointless (to me.) C&C is a game that does not need a computer to play it... it doesn't have three million excpetions and stipulations to remember.

Anyway, I guess some people like having programs do their bookwork. For that, I say: go for it.

I wouldn't buy it.

I agree with you about using such a thing in game. But I'd love something that I could create and print characters out with. That's mostly (probably only) what I'd use it for.

serleran wrote:
Everytime I see a computer program for a RPG, my first thought is "why?" If all it does is keep track of DM materials, rather than create them (treasure hoards, monster encounters, dungeons, and artifacts), it seems rather pointless (to me.) C&C is a game that does not need a computer to play it... it doesn't have three million excpetions and stipulations to remember.

You are absolutely correct! C&C is so simple that a prgoram is not needed - ever. I can't ever see myself running a 3.x game without E-tools or the 10$ program mentioned here. However, I decided after 2 sessions of missing character sheets, that I would like to have a character keeper - A way to keep the characters around should we ever need to print them again. It's just a nifty thing to have.

serleran wrote:
Anyway, I guess some people like having programs do their bookwork. For that, I say: go for it.

I am terrible at book keeping, and you don't want to see my hand writing. I'm a computer geek, so I used what tools & skills I have and it works for me. My buddy is the total opposite and I admire him for keeping a big beautiful binder full of neat notes.

Everyone is different!

Anyhow, my program (should it ever get approved for free distribution) is in fact free.

oh yeah... the Digital Blue software is really cool, but I thought it was free? Where did you get the 10$ fee? I donwloaded a full version for free.

An indexed list of all items and spells is also worth it to me. Especially if I am already using my computer to run the game. Plus the monsters. Plus determining initiative in a few seconds, other things.

He is going to have the initiative table automatically access the monsters "standard" initiative modifers as well as let you change it to your desired modifier.

Lots of value for me, especially at $10.00

Jynx wrote:
I've added in my latest SETUP.EXE program to my downloads. In it are the various characters in my campaigns as well as all the data I entered for the program. If anyone is interested then give it a try. It's not perfect, never will be - nothing ever is, but I am constantly looking to improve it.

I've seen Jynx's earlier version of his program and it's really excellent. I'll have to download and take a look at the latest version!
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serleran wrote:
Everytime I see a computer program for a RPG, my first thought is "why?" .

Serleran--

My only reason would be thus: the party is about to visit a large town filled with many residents, some of which are of the "classed" variety. Perhaps these are the innkeeper here, the sawyer there, and the fishmonger over there. They are respectively a fighter, a ranger, and a cleric.

I've done some prep work in laying out the town, but it's the night before game time and my kids need help with their homework and I have to perform some mudane household chores. I have no time left to stat up these three classed folks. A program that can spit them out from me quick for use as NPCs would be most helpful. My two coppers.

Beer!

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Everytime I see a computer program for a RPG, my first thought is "why?"

I know why I like 'em. My job has made me anal about the appearance of paperwork. Whether it be a use of force, an assault, LID investigation or attempted suicide, it may eventually end up in Federal Court. If it does I want it to look as good as possible.

It has carried over into my personal life as well. Any sort of record keeping I do, I like to have it look good. That's what these programs do for me. Nice printed up fields, etc. Looks sharp.

Heh, I don't even use any of the extra stuff on the programs usually. I just use them to print pretty characters. Hell, I'd be happy with a C&C character sheet done PDF with fields you can type in. Would accomplish the same thing for me.

I haven't played around with it, but I believe that is what Jynx's program is DD.

Treebore wrote:
I haven't played around with it, but I believe that is what Jynx's program is DD.

Yes - that is exactly what it is. It also provides a report that spits out the NPCs in a list that is easy to refer to. It can print about 15 or so NPC stats on a page.

I also have the program print out the summerized race and class abilities on the sheet. The spells are in there as well but no detailed descrptions - yet.

Hi Jynx,

I for one applaud your efforts... I took a look at your earlier program and like what I see -- it's ideal in a pinch. I would love any updated version of your program.

Thanks!

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moriarty777 wrote:
Hi Jynx,

I for one applaud your efforts... I took a look at your earlier program and like what I see -- it's ideal in a pinch. I would love any updated version of your program.

Thanks!

Moriarty the Red

You're welcome!

I will eventually add in various upgrades, including one where you can update without losing previous data - one current flaw. Perhaps I'll add in a backup option so a DM and player can email the characters to each other.

later!

Jynx