Good way to check out Kalamar?

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:16 am

http://www.kenzerco.com/product_info.ph ... cts_id=625

If you read carefully, even though they are marketing it for 4E, you will see that very, very little will be 4E rules crunch. Plus the Atlas section alone sounds awesome, for map geeks like me.

Over 500 pages of PDF for $25.00 is pretty good.
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:01 pm

That looks pretty good. If you haven't any experience with Kalamar, then it looks like a very viable option for initial exposure.

I'd prefer a combination old KoK box set plus the new Atlas.

But that's because I'm a curmudgeonly old gamer that, at the time, hates anything associated with 4E.

Uh oh, I think I see some kids on my lawn!

DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:44 pm

I absolutely loathe PDF products.

But this...

This is tempting me.

Thanks for the link Tree.

serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:15 pm

Maps in pdf? No thanks. Even if the text were awesome, I don't want an e-map. Maps should be poster-sized, in paper... not 4.5mb.

Go0gleplex · Post by **Go0gleplex** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:24 pm

it's times like this I simply love having access to a plan size color printer.

I still have my original maps for Kalamar.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:29 pm

Go0gleplex wrote:
it's times like this I simply love having access to a plan size color printer.

Bah. Braggart.

dachda · Post by **dachda** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:15 pm

Go0gleplex wrote:
it's times like this I simply love having access to a plan size color printer.

I still have my original maps for Kalamar.

You own it or do you 'borrow' it at work? Either way that is a great thing for an RPGer to have access to. I keep wanting to pick up old box sets but never have the budget for them, but I don't take the plunge with pdfs for the same reason Serlean noted: pdf maps printed on 8x11 paper kinda suck.
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Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:06 pm

Huh? I am confused. I thought Kalamar was getting absorbed int their forthcoming Hackmaster 5e(?) line.
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Go0gleplex · Post by **Go0gleplex** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:41 pm

access at work, though I still have to pay for the materials used. It'll do up to 42" wide from a roll. Is how I made my own hex maps for my Starmada gaming.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:46 pm

You want good maps from your PDF's?
http://www.gamer-printshop.com/
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DaveyB · Post by **DaveyB** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:26 am

Would be nice if this were a book instead and not a "grayscale, print-on-demand" book. An actual retail product would be nice. I know they already have the old KoK stuff, but I'd like updated 4e products. I'm not a fan of PDF's, so I think two core books would be, nice same as before. They could even make one HUGE book and I'd still be willing to pay $50-$60 for it if it were mostly error-free and of highest quality.

DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:41 am

I'm still torn about getting this. Is it basically the d20 book updated with the atlas included?

Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:46 am

I just picked up the pre-3e box set, so I doubt this would be any help to me.

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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:50 am

Rigon wrote:
I just picked up the pre-3e box set, so I doubt this would be any help to me.

R-

I doubt it too.

DD,

I am pretty sure if you have the main 3E books you really have no need to buy this. Its just a good way to get a darn good look at KoK in one shot for $25.00.
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Zebulon · Post by **Zebulon** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:06 am

Kenzer & Ko are traitors. Nuff said.
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Morgrus · Post by **Morgrus** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:43 pm

Kingdom of squid. lol. I tried it its kinda dull (the cor fluff) but has great maps. Can be forged into what you want though. But the name... (turkish for squid), it is THE hackmaster/KoDT wurld so.....