JG at home

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:23 am

Many wonder what I really do when I am not online. Well I made this 'home video' of me entertaining the neighbor kids. Enjoy...
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:43 am

I had never seen that before! Cool!
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MacLeod · Post by **MacLeod** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:09 am

Haha...

When the angel introduced himself, I chuckled. Classy stuff.
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:35 pm

The whole movie it is from is pretty odd but this was a scene that stuck with me.
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:10 pm

I've seen this somewhere before, just not sure where. And yeah, it is weird.

Post by **Breakdaddy** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:20 pm

Dude... Dubya Tee Ef?

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:03 pm

It's a claymation movie that was called IIRC " the adventures of Mark Twain. "
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Post by **Breakdaddy** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:36 pm

Well, I wish that were the strangest thing I'd seen today.

dachda · Post by **dachda** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:01 pm

hey all, you can buy it on DVD. Only $10.49. Made by the famous Will Vinton studios:
http://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Mark-T ... DVL3W2K907
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:04 pm

Heh, no thanks. I'll just stick with LSD when I want to trip.

Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:33 pm

I think LSD had something to do with the movie. Anyway I think I'm gonna snag ol' mask guy for a rebel demi-god or something like that.
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:50 pm

Julian Grimm wrote:
I think LSD had something to do with the movie. Anyway I think I'm gonna snag ol' mask guy for a rebel demi-god or something like that.

I think you may be right. am I the only one that thought it was pretty damn awesome?
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DangerDwarf · Post by **DangerDwarf** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:54 pm

Prolly so....

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:34 pm

Lord Dynel wrote:
I think you may be right. am I the only one that thought it was pretty damn awesome?

I thought the gaming possibilities were pretty darn awesome.
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:40 pm

Yeah, I keep seeing a rogue Val-somethingorother that sees what happened to creation and with Unklar and deciding the best way to stop the something like that from happening again is to undo creation. Not necessarily evil but a power to stop.
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:20 am

Hey, neat...I was thinking about using him as some god-like creature, too. I don't know if I see him as evil, though. I honestly think true neutral be a better descriptor of the guy. I mean take out the Satan references and all - after he's in his little realm and such I think he acts true neutral to me. Maybe I'm weird...well, I know I'm weird, but maybe I'm demented or something - he just seemed neutral to me.
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Julian Grimm · Post by **Julian Grimm** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:46 am

Now that I think about it you may be right. However like the kids reaction most would see his actions as evil. I'm gonna play with this idea some. He would make an interesting hook no matter what you did with him.
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Post by **Breakdaddy** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:53 pm

Lord Dynel wrote:
Hey, neat...I was thinking about using him as some god-like creature, too. I don't know if I see him as evil, though. I honestly think true neutral be a better descriptor of the guy. I mean take out the Satan references and all - after he's in his little realm and such I think he acts true neutral to me. Maybe I'm weird...well, I know I'm weird, but maybe I'm demented or something - he just seemed neutral to me.

He certainly would be TN in the AD&D 1st edition way. Not necessarily in the 3.x or 4th ed way, but who uses those books here?
I wouldnt put it past Zagyg to appear and act like this once he ascended to demigod status. He was mad for so long that he probably had a "Zen moment" close to or upon his ascension and now is a (slightly disturbed) demigod-philosopher like the "Satan" featured in this clip.

Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:36 pm

Exactly Julian (and BD)! I got "fooled," and I use that term loosely, the first time I wateched it - the kids reaction, the "Satan" reference, I was like, "Whoa, what an eveil bastard!" But after watching it a few times I thought to myself he's not really evil - uncaring, callous, and not really interested in the human race, but I don't know if I'd say evil. He does like f'ing with the clay people though...though "like is a misleading term, IMHO.
"I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is," and the "People are of no value, we can make more sometime, if we need to," really stands out to me as being, "I' not right or wrong, good or evil, and mortals' plights mean nothing to me," kinda gives me a TN vibe. Couple that with the very last part, the "Life itself is only a vision..." mini-monologue and I get a good feel for a god of balance or fate or something along that line.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:46 pm

I think it just shows that a being outside of the human experience could really care less about our troubles, what we think, etc.... So would have no connection to us in terms of how they would behave.

I have often thought bout this with regards to elementals, demons, devils, other planar beings in general. IF they don't "know" what the human experience is, ie what we think, how we think, what we feel, what we value, etc... and don't care about "humanity" in general, well, from the human perspective they would be evil sociopaths.

Most, if not all, of the alignment system transfers human values and sensibilities to creatures who likely have no idea what such things are about.

Am Elemental is neutral, not because of its etho's, but because it doesn't want/need to eat us, and could care less if we live or die. You don't see that in the alignment descriptions.
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:41 am

Treebore wrote:
Am Elemental is neutral, not because of its etho's, but because it doesn't want/need to eat us, and could care less if we live or die. You don't see that in the alignment descriptions.

Indeed. Fortunately, we can extrapolate this information. I have the same opinion, Tree. I think any force not out to deal humans weal or woe should be considered neutral. I think detachment is one of the greatest examples of a neutral alignment, IMHO.
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