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http://www.trolllord.com/4thestate/index.html

Just wanted to say that's pretty cool! Nice work, and good idea!

Update that Twitter page, guys! I want plenty of juicy updates!
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serleran wrote:
I do not need the image of a twittering troll... that's just not right.

Trolls should not twitter

At least they aren't googling themselves.
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No offense to twittering trolls, but I just dont see them tweeting very much. Tweet... blech.

-O
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BTW, what the hell is a 4th estate anyway?
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Julian Grimm wrote:
BTW, what the hell is a 4th estate anyway?

*chuckles* Well, I'm sure that's not coming off as well as Steve would like. But there was a time that Society was divided up into various estates. The First through 4th.

First estate was nobility

Second was Clergy

Third was the merchant class

And the 4th estate was the peasantry.
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gideon_thorne wrote:
*chuckles* Well, I'm sure that's not coming off as well as Steve would like. But there was a time that Society was divided up into various estates. The First through 4th.

First estate was nobility

Second was Clergy

Third was the merchant class

And the 4th estate was the peasantry.

With all respect to Mr. Bradley, the "fourth estate" actually refers to the press (or in today's parlance, the media).
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Wasn't the Third Estate the peasantry?

I'm
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Troll Lord wrote:
Lord D: you understand where I"m coming from.

Upon a little further digging, it looks as if it has been used for both. However, today it's usually used to refer to the press.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_estate
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Haha

Yes, its the press. As with all these terms...to include liberal and conservative that change over time. The Troll Lord 4th Estate is the Media room. I utterly despise the media, loath is the proper word. No, that doesn't quite capture my feelings for this collection of dottering, uneducated, uninformed, inexperienced, blithering mouth kettles who yak away on our evening's News channels quite well enough...and its not just today, Walter Cronkite started this wave of idiots on the tv...errrr

Wait, what were we talking about???

Media.

Right.

I don't like that word, so I groused around until I remembered the press has been referred to the 4th estate and it just seemed to fit. But at the very least it made you look!

Enjoy, there will be more of those videos coming too. I couldn't believe they actually have a character that looks like Davis!

Steve
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CKDad wrote:
With all respect to Mr. Bradley, the "fourth estate" actually refers to the press (or in today's parlance, the media).

*chuckles* Not in the time I am thinking of. They didn't have a press then. In fact, it was before the press was invented.^_~`
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in the middle ages, the classic three orders were those who fight, those who pray and those who work. when first conceived (in the 11th century), those who work referred solely to peasants. I am unaware of any later medieval writers who revised this tripartite system to include merchants, although perhaps such a formulation is post-medieval. The classic source on this is Georges Duby, _The Three Orders: Feudal Society Imagined
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Interesting developments in this thread...and interesting information, too!
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Troll Lord wrote:
Lord D: you understand where I"m coming from.

Hell, all them thar fancy computin' and tweeterin' is fer 4e players, not fer us oldschool types! Box up yer computeng devahses, fellers, ya don't need em!

/queues up dueling banjos

PS- on the serious, if we do not keep up with tech at least a little bit then we are going to be the only people playing C&C in a few years. We have GOT to keep some sort of presence up on the web aside from the main web site to help bring in new folks and to keep the existing fanbase (the ones that want it) more informed. If you are one of those "Bah, twitter" types, then do not bother with it, it will not hurt your existing game. I know for a fact that some new folks have seen us on facebook and twitter and headed over here to see what we're about.

PPS- The above is coming from a tech-guy and contains all the slant and bias integral to coming from such a position.

PPPS- I know that the peripheral sites are currently almost useless but that is because we arent updating them enough. Please begin to do so, Troll-site-updater dudes.

I have to second Jason here. I'm a BIG time anti-technology fan (that's right, fan). If I wasn't married and with children and working this type of job I would be living in god knows what kind of box out in the woods grousing around in the weeds for my fish tallow chap stick. But we have to move forward with the times and take advantage of these things.

Facebook, which I was very, very reluctant to set up, has already garnered us some good press and gained a number of attendees for Troll Con in the local community. That is a good thing.

I'm not sure of the usages of twitter, but Kim Harsfield is going to take it over for us and make it more consistent.

I have to say this, as the only one able to blog for TLG, as I'm the guy with all the guide ropes in my hands, it would really help if people would sign up to "follow" the blog/twitter/flutter/piper/whistler and his mother. If I knew there were 10-15-35 people who were "alerted" when I post it would motivate me to post far more often.

These boards have become a fantastic place for us all to gather and talk and really, it would be sweet for us all if the other formats guided and sent folks here.

Thanks,

Steve
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Troll Lord wrote:
I'm not sure of the usages of twitter, but Kim Harsfield is going to take it over for us and make it more consistent.

That guy's name is almost like mine!

Troll Lord wrote:
.. it would really help if people would sign up to "follow" the blog/twitter/flutter/piper/whistler...

or fluffer.
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Hey "Harsfield", you know a dude named Hartsfield? I hear that guy's a d**k.

Troll Lord wrote:
I have to say this, as the only one able to blog for TLG, as I'm the guy with all the guide ropes in my hands, it would really help if people would sign up to "follow" the blog/twitter/flutter/piper/whistler and his mother. If I knew there were 10-15-35 people who were "alerted" when I post it would motivate me to post far more often.

These boards have become a fantastic place for us all to gather and talk and really, it would be sweet for us all if the other formats guided and sent folks here.

Thanks,

Steve

Done, done & done.
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I have your blog in my Google Reader.
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Frost wrote:
I have your blog in my Google.

I remember the days when this was an insult or a request for sex...
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Steve, would you please include some mention of the Society on the "estate" page, if it is not there already.
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I check the blog everyday! Don't want to miss an update, ya know!!
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Deogolf wrote:
I check the blog everyday! Don't want to miss an update, ya know!!

LOLOLOL

Nice.

Steve
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serleran wrote:
Steve, would you please include some mention of the Society on the "estate" page, if it is not there already.

Brian and I are working on the Society page connections. We have some nice things in the works...as you very well know Sir Robert!

Steve
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Yes, I know, but we still need to discuss things unless you've settled on them?
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serleran wrote:
Yes, I know, but we still need to discuss things unless you've settled on them?

I've only just now decided to call the company Troll Lord Games!

Steve
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I have the blog followed but I don't 'tweet'.
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as of yet I have avoided twitter, but to support the cause I guess I could check that out. I do have Troll con in my facebook list though. Does TLG have its own Facebook or just TC? I McBain in my FB list too and poke him across FB Messenger on occasion.

I am pretty much a technology child hehe If I could jack in like in Shadowrun/Cyberpunk I would and for you perverts that was IN not......

shadoes wrote:
and for you perverts that was IN not......

Hey, what you do on your side of the screen is your own business.
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