A new name for Halflings? Help?

Relaxo · Post by **Relaxo** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:50 pm

How about...

Groundling

Hill people (Hillies) (not great, I admit)

jaybird216 · Post by **jaybird216** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:58 pm

How about Duggins?
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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:14 pm

We can use Halfling, we can't use Hobbit

I just use Halfling the same way they used Peck in Willow. An insult.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:17 pm

Are there any mythological figures of these beings of importance in the game world? If so, it is possible the race is named after that figure. For example, if there is a tale relating the adventure of Hogarth and how he once sneaked beyond the veil of the dragon's senses and stole the Sacred Cup of Cha'a'lala, then the "descendants" might be known as Hogarths, or some derivative thereof. Not knowing what you're looking for makes just randomly guessing it nearly impossible.
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Aladar · Post by **Aladar** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:19 pm

You could call them Tobbies (long "O" sound), or the old realiable Shirefolk (don't think this is copy righted).

Me, I just call them Hobbits, but I am not using it in a published medium.
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dutch206 · Post by **dutch206** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:56 pm

How about Pechs?
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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:02 pm

Aladar wrote:
You could call them Tobbies (long "O" sound)

You haven't seen Roots have you?
If we take the origin of Hobbit to be rabbit as some suggest, then that is a starting point.

The problem becomes the "bbit" part. Anything else is just going to sound like Hobbit.

Kender and Warrow I think are the best ones to come after, but I got nothing when trying to do that.
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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:17 pm

If you wanted a serious answer you should never bring up small fuzzy footed folk.

I prefer Bobbin over all the rest. It make sense in a real world, but I am failing to see why you can't just use halfling and allow everyone to know what your talking about. Any other name and you find yourself expalining a halfling by another name.

I didn't think Pech was used so much as an insult in Willow as much as a proper noun.

I thought Pech was the name of their race, not a derogatory term.
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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:23 pm

Joe wrote:
I didn't think Pech was used so much as an insult in Willow as much as a proper noun.

I thought Pech was the name of their race, not a derogatory term.

Their race was Nelwyn, Peck was an insult.

A racist one at that.

As for the just explaing. I like using Halflings as an insult along the same lines as Peck, therefor I need a race name.

It will come to be.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:24 pm

Kender is mucho Dragonlance and conjures the image of a kleptomaniac.
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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:26 pm

serleran wrote:
Kender is mucho Dragonlance and conjures the image of a kleptomaniac.

Agreed, wasn't suggesting I use it, was just mentioning that it and Warrow are the ones I have seen post Hobbit that impressed me the most.
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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:29 pm

And this just ruled out Bobbin Other uses/References

Bobbins can also refer to narrow braid formerly used as trimming.

The term Round Bobbin is used in computing to describe a process which writes its output back to its input source.

"Bobbin Threadbare" is the name of the main character in the 1990 computer game Loom.
The term "bobbins" appears in northern English slang, meaning "rubbish", i.e. something worthless or incorrect. Taken from the cockney "bobbins of cotton", meaning "rotten".

Stephen Colbert has said multiple times, "Let's change some bobbins" in his 435-part series, "Better Know a District," typically when talking about labor unions.

The Proud Family has an episode where Penny goes to the spelling bee, and her last word to spell for the win is "bobbin."

The nickname 'Bobbin' is synonymous with a person who is from Wanborough, Wiltshire.
'Bobbin' is often used in the South East of England to refer to a stool or the process of defecation, i.e. "I'm going for a quick bobbin" or "Stop talking a load of bobbins".

'Wind the bobbin up' is a common nursery rhyme.
In contemporary British slang, the plural "bobbins" is often used to denote something negative, particularly in theatrical circles.

I certainly don't want them to be seen as "negative rotten poo"
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Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:20 pm

Here is a try or 2

if hobbit is derived from "rabbit" then you can also use

cwningen or ceinach - welsh,

coinn or giorria - irish,

Kaninchen - German,

Lapin - French,

Kanin - Swedish

If those don't work then translate other simple words (snake, little one, etc etc) and see if anything is better.

Hope this helps
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Relaxo · Post by **Relaxo** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:46 am

For some German-ish flavor, try:

Halbmann (half-person)

Kleinemann (small person, basically "wee folk")

groundling - dirtling could be a slur

have you tried just making up nonsense words?

Slorn?

Glorfen

Schawabby

(I'm serious)

AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:04 pm

Now we are cooking with heat.

I like the idea of Coinin or Coney (the old word for adult rabbits) which also leads me to Kindle (which is another term for young rabbit) which leads me to Kindal.

Kindals.

Conins.

Hmmmm... that's the right direction.

That may be it... let's see if it sparks anyone.
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Relaxo · Post by **Relaxo** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:16 pm

I like it.

Go0gleplex · Post by **Go0gleplex** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:22 pm

I think I like Kindals best.

It would fit that (assuming) they look like shorter humans...they'd be Kin of some sort. Particularly up in them backwoods hills.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:46 pm

Kindal also has a familiar Germanic sense, being somewhat related to Kinder "children."
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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:35 pm

Ok heres a stretch...

drumrolls please...

Spinners

Mopeds (Fun to ride but you dont want your friends to see you on one)

Fuzzy little furry people

Furbees

Curly cuddly menchildren

Seriously though...

How do you like...

SHIREFOLK!
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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:37 pm

Shirefolk is a good "nom de plume" for them, but not a racial name. It would be like saying Humans are "Americans". You dig?
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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:42 pm

I thought Americans were humans...
Heres an idea...

Why not have "stumpy inbred midget thieving basterds" be the derogatory term and just call them halflings?

Didn't Tolkien have a name for the race that predated hobbits? The race that Smeagol was from?
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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:45 pm

They were actually called "Riverfolk"
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nwelte1 · Post by **nwelte1** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:02 pm

Ankle Bitters

Malakor · Post by **Malakor** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:05 pm

Short Buggers
I like the Kindal idea from above,

Depending upon where you have them living, maybe something based on that

I used Meadari in one of my campaigns, but my halflings were considered "meadow elves" by most folks

Using the 'kin' idea, if they are related to humans, what about 'mankin' or 'haekin', which could lend itself well to 'halfling' being used as a slur.
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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:07 pm

Dalkin?
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Malakor · Post by **Malakor** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:36 pm

as in 'dale kin?' I like it

has a nice ring
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Joe · Post by **Joe** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:31 pm

I like Dalkin too.

Yeah I guess Tolkiens Riverfolk sound too general much like Shirefolk.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:33 pm

I call them midglins in my game, and they are related to goblins.
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AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:33 pm

I like Dalkin but I must confess I really like Kindal more.

Here's why;

Dwarf: Oh we have to start a fire. Good thing we brought the kindle! *laughs uproariously*

But maybe that's just me.
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Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:58 pm

AslanC wrote:
I like Dalkin but I must confess I really like Kindal more.

Here's why;

Dwarf: Oh we have to start a fire. Good thing we brought the kindle! *laughs uproariously*

But maybe that's just me.

Haaa too funny

But as someone that likes playing hobbits I'd make the fire, cook the stew and then make sure the dwarf got the gristle, fat and more broth than any one else (never annoy the cook!)
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