DUBYA TEE EF?

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Arazmus wrote:
And we few, we happy few, who defend and carry on the old ways will have to be content with Castles and Crusades.

Hence the term, "grognard."

To me, it's sad when role-playing is considered the "old ways." But I cannot argue with you, good sir.
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Lord Dynel wrote:
See, this goes back to my "theory" I mentioned in another thread. Tree, you come from older games, as do I, and maybe Orpheus, too. We have the know-how when it comes to role-playing. We don't need a book to tell us how to role-play. I've seen those Game Days you're talking about, too. I think a part of it is either old schoolers who are tired of role-playing/never liked role-playing or people who are new to D&D following the lead of the books and it's idea of what you should do with a role-playing game. But yeah, it's moving pieces around a grid and flashing cards as their attack powers. Very little of what we would consider role-playing.

Yeah, I like 4th Edition, but I definitely come from an old school mindset. I also prefer the "High Medieval Fantasy"-feel of older editions. I really like Eberron, however, but that's more because of the "Dashell Hammet Does D&D" aura that the setting has. I think that it's very clever and it's one of the few modern fantasy settings that I really dig.

The one area where I will agree that 4th Edition has definitely pushed the "Combat! Combat! Combat!" bit is in the modules. Most of the 4E modules done by WotC suck ass!!!
As for a book which focuses on character builds and powers, I would prefer to see one which gives some tips on how the different classes can work together to maximize their powers' potential. Most of this is just something that players pick up on, but THAT'S where the real interest in the characters' abilities really is.

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Sir Osis of Liver wrote:
You mean Shakespeare does more than just make my fishing reels?

I think gamers are more likely to quote Shakespeare than anyone but Poets, Playwrights or Actors
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Oh dear...when did I become a grognard? *consults calendar*
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Arazmus wrote:
I think gamers are more likely to quote Shakespeare than anyone but Poets, Playwrights or Actors

Indeed . .
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( Quote Act II, Scene VII).
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Go0gleplex wrote:
Oh dear...when did I become a grognard? *consults calendar*

Wassamatta with bein a Grognard?
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Arazmus wrote:
Wassamatta with bein a Grognard?

Arazmus, it's not about a time...it's about a state of mind.
Go0gle...there ain't nothin' wrong with it, brotha'. Nothin' at all.
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[quote="Lord Dynel"][quote="Arazmus"][quote="Go0gleplex"]Oh dear...when did I become a grognard? *consults calendar*[/quote]

Wassamatta with bein a Grognard?[/quote]

Arazmus, it's not about a time...it's about a state of mind.
Go0gle...there ain't nothin' wrong with it, brotha'. Nothin' at all.[/quote]

I'm just startin to feel dated, that's all. lol
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Grognard is just an old wargamer...or one of Napoleon's veterans Grognard = grumbler.
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Breakdaddy wrote:
OK, I know I'm behind the times, but DAYUM! If you need a strategy guide to "optimize your character build", then you've missed the point of sitting around the table tossing a few dice with your pals...
http://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dragons- ... 0786954884

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Arazmus wrote:
Grognard is just an old wargamer...

It's been applied to old tabletop gamers (as in those who like the older versions and are of advancing age) for some time now...
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I guess I HAVE to admit it then...My name is Todd and I'm a Grognard. Don't touch my dice ya whippersnappers!

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Go0gleplex wrote:
I guess I HAVE to admit it then...My name is Todd and I'm a Grognard. Don't touch my dice ya whippersnappers!

Grognards Anonymous?
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D&D 4e is an okay game, but I'd rather play BattleTech, Renegade Legion, WFRP 3e, Rise of Legends, Wesnoth, Go, Sins of a Solar Empire, Settlers of Catan, or the like. Those other games have superior longevity and far deeper strategy.
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I haven't played battletech in eons. We had some fun with that one...too bad mechwarrior was such an aweful system.
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BattleTech is awesome. Whenever the new RPG comes out, that will be a day I am really, really happy (overall all the Mechwarrior RPG versions were pretty crappy). Renegade Legion 4TW!

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Yup. GA.

The Battletech A Time of War RPG IS out at RPGNow already.

wardogs is better than battletech.
Renegade Legions: Interceptor. THE fighter duel/combat game.
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Omote wrote:
BattleTech is awesome. Whenever the new RPG comes out, that will be a day I am really, really happy (overall all the Mechwarrior RPG versions were pretty crappy). Renegade Legion 4TW!

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I liked the MechWarrior RPG, at first. Then it got retarded.
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Go0gleplex wrote:
The Battletech A Time of War RPG IS out at RPGNow already.

Never got into Interceptor because Renegade Legion was complicated enough. The setting is so eFin cool.

A Time of War seems to have gone through many changes since it was released on RPGNow, some of theme very significant. I don't keep up with the changes anymore as I'm just looking forward to the final product.

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Renegade Legions: Interceptor was the first game released (TOG RULES) followed by RL: Centurion, RL: Leviathan, RL: Prefect (yes I have all of them) It's a shame it never saw the major support it should have had, though with FASA in the early phases of its meltdown by Leviathan, I guess it's not surprising.
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