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One of the nicest GM screen art pieces I have ever seen...
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:17 pm
by Treebore
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:46 pm
by Sir Ironside
Not enough spikes.
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:24 pm
by Go0gleplex
Not really a fan of the whole goth look that seemed to hit around 3e....but I do admit, the artwork is quite well done.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:27 pm
by Treebore
Go0gleplex wrote:
Not really a fan of the whole goth look that seemed to hit around 3e....but I do admit, the artwork is quite well done.
Yeah, I don't like the super sized swords, etc... but I think its a piece of art bored players will spend a lot of time looking at the small details of.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:39 pm
by Plaag
I like the art, and won't keep rehashing it, but that barbarians sword is a Giant's shortsword. Stated as such in her history on how she obtained it (if interested its on the Paizo site - not sure how many here are though).
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:10 pm
by Treebore
Plaag wrote:
I like the art, and won't keep rehashing it, but that barbarians sword is a Giant's shortsword. Stated as such in her history on how she obtained it (if interested its on the Paizo site - not sure how many here are though).
ShaneG.
I buy TONS of Paizo, I even subscribe to their PF and maps packages, and nwo their RPG package, but I never worried about it enough to read all the hostories, etc...
What I find funny, is to make the sword OK in my mind, I just made up her story in my mind to be that she killed a giant and took his sword, so nice to see the real story for her sword was so obvious.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:57 pm
by anglefish
Meh. None of this art is new. It's just their standard signature characters pics all in one place.
My snark on Paizo is how Sorcereress (fifth from the right) is always drawn in action poses were her breasts are literally floating balloons. She always falling or getting air lifted so her "dress" is showing all the leg and hip it can.
Definitely Sorceress 5/Cheesecake 10 on that PC.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:13 am
by Omote
I'm with anglefish, total meh. Not only is it not new at all, but it's boring for the players to look at the whole game. I'd much rather have seen some type of panoramic battlescape or dungeon delve, etc. There is always neat stuff to see and find in the DM screens of the past (in particular Birthright screen, 3e screen, and of course the awesome Castles & Crusades CK screen. In this one, there is nothing interesting going on... just a bunch of adventuring types from the PFRPG standing around not doing anything. I like Wayne Reynolds artwork just fine, but this makes his stuff look boring in comparison.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:18 am
by concobar
looks like final fantasy art.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:04 am
by Philotomy Jurament
Not my thing, either. I don't like the style. More importantly, I don't like the composition. It's a bunch of "pin ups" standing there. Boring.
As a contrast, check out the art on the home-made screen in this thread. Even if you're not into the style (which I am), the composition and the scenes are cool. Not "pin ups" and not "overthetopactionexplodingalloverthecover," but cool "moments in time" that make me think of adventuring -- what the characters are doing, what's next, et cetera. It make me want to be there. That's the kind of RPG art I find inspiring.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:07 am
by Jynx
It's great artwork but I find everything way to big and out of proportion for my tastes. I do like stuff that is out of the ordinary (i.e. Eberron stuff) but this is way out there. I prefer the old stuff - the more realistic drawings especially the one of the mage casting her spell in the 2e DMG page 40. No ballons for boobs on that one!
And what's with the hair going sideways on the woman in a black wrap-armor of some sort? There is no wind of any kind that I can tell! Is it just a bad hair day or too much hair gell?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:08 am
by K2h2m3
That S&W screen is pretty cool.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:07 pm
by Lord Dynel
The screen is okay, I suppose. I'm not a huge fan of the guy's style (a lot of the characters look like they have a cold, with their red noses) but I'ver seen worse.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:16 pm
by serleran
I bet it would be cooler if you draped some black crushed velvet over it.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:05 pm
by tylermo
Perhaps a "Velvet Elvish"? That's a good one, right??
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:25 pm
by Frost
Sir Ironside wrote:
Not enough spikes.
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K2h2m3 wrote:
That S&W screen is pretty cool.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:34 pm
by Frost
The art work is well done, but a lot of the Pathfinder stuff is too close to anime for my tastes. I'm sort of conflicted about of PF art. For example, I like the pictures of the fighter and wizard, but not the elves or the gnome.
I really think the S&W one is much more evocative, though. Then again, I started playing when that kind of art was popular. I wonder if younger players would care for it.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:03 pm
by Julian Grimm
I more of a fan of the Elmore and Caldwell era of D&D. But I do like the PF screen art. I never had a problem with the 3e style 'Dungeonpunk' art and there are several of the pieces in that era I enjoy as well. I will say though, the PF art is starting to edge into the realm of Final Fantasy and anime and I am not thrilled with that trend.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:08 pm
by gideon_thorne
Frost wrote:
I wonder if younger players would care for it.
Not that I've noticed. And I go to a loooot of conventions. Anime is the big thing.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:56 pm
by Frost
gideon_thorne wrote:
Not that I've noticed. And I go to a loooot of conventions. Anime is the big thing.
That's what I figured. And, from that stance, it is sort of smart for Paizo to take the direction they have art-wise.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:54 pm
by danbuter
I've seen all those pics before. As a panoramic, it's nothing special. But each individual character looks really good.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:03 pm
by Treebore
You have all seen those characters before, this piece is an original done just for this product. I guess that speaks to his ability since some of you think this is reused art.
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:58 am
by DaveyB
Treebore wrote:
You have all seen those characters before, this piece is an original done just for this product. I guess that speaks to his ability since some of you think this is reused art.
It's typical Wayne Reynolds art. I'd rather see some art from Todd Lockwood than Reynolds. All of his stuff looks the same to me. I'm not saying he's not a good artist, he obviously is. His style just doesn't do anything for me really.
Also, all of those characters have been done before. They're the same poses as seen in the Campaign Setting book. Looks like someone just dropped them into Photoshop and rearranged some layers. To me it looks like someone phoned that pic in, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:03 am
by DangerDwarf
Treebore wrote:
You have all seen those characters before, this piece is an original done just for this product. I guess that speaks to his ability since some of you think this is reused art.
It is reused art.
All of the pics in it are.
Heck, it used to be my computer wallpaper over a year ago.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:02 am
by Omote
Most reused. All of these illustrations are from the Beta version of the Pathfinder RPG and some of the downloads Paizo offered for Pathfinder Beta +.
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:14 am
by DangerDwarf
Or the covers of PF 1-12.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:17 pm
by Frost
Yeh. I think my "meh" reaction is mainly because I've seen all the art before. It's a nice looking screen, but it didn't "wow" me because the art wasn't new to me (oh, and I'd still pick the S&W one over it in a heartbeat ).
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:14 pm
by Julian Grimm
As much as I like what went into S&W the art wasn't a winner with me. Then again I am not a fan of the style either. That's the thing though, art is a subjective form that you like or not. Not one opinion is correct in the field ow which is better or not.
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:55 pm
by Sir Ironside
Julian Grimm wrote:
Not one opinion is correct in the field ow which is better or not.
This is all true, except... well... my opinion.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:09 pm
by Julian Grimm
Keep telling yourself that.
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