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Troll Lord · Post by **Troll Lord** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:09 pm

tylermo wrote:
Attention Stephen, James, Davis, BD, Todd, Mark, and the rest of the Trolls! I hearby suggest we have a dvd projector viewing of "Mazes and Monsters"(Starring Tom Hanks) at next year's Troll Con! You provide the dvd projector, and the popcorn. I'll bring the dvd of this highly-coveted 1980's classic. Besides, you guys love movies like Battle Beyond the Stars, so this movie should be right up your alley. Whadda ya say? It sounds like I'm joking, but maybe not.

SIR! The movie you are referencing that we love, and by we I mean ME, is Dark Star. Best sci fi movie of ALL time.
But heck yeah! I think that's a great idea. I'll ping McBain and tell him to make is so!

Steve
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:11 pm

tylermo wrote:
Attention Stephen, James, Davis, BD, Todd, Mark, and the rest of the Trolls! I hearby suggest we have a dvd projector viewing of "Mazes and Monsters"(Starring Tom Hanks) at next year's Troll Con! You provide the dvd projector, and the popcorn. I'll bring the dvd of this highly-coveted 1980's classic. Besides, you guys love movies like Battle Beyond the Stars, so this movie should be right up your alley. Whadda ya say? It sounds like I'm joking, but maybe not.

It was actually a pretty cool movie. Thing is, when my folks and I first watched it, I don't think any of us saw it as an 'anti gaming' movie. Certainly, it was one of those 'don't take a hobby too seriously' movies.

I always wondered who did that awesome map that was in the film though.
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:21 pm

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Damn. Sounds like your folks were/are pretty cool. I lucked out as well, in that my folks did everything they could to foster my creative side. I had to buy some of my own stuff, but for the most part, they kept me pretty well set up. It was awesome. They were, and continue to be, awesome too.

I pretty much grew up with theatre, wargaming, costuming, historical groups, fantasy groups and all manner of strange creatures. First thing my parents did, when we first moved to this country, was go into business with my aunt who was running a theatrical costume place in California. The San Diego Costume Company. This was back just before the mid 70's.

Right around the corner from our shop was a place called The Command Post. A rather well known game shop, according to Tim Kask. In this game shop was all manner of wargamery stuff, and, when it came out, all the D&D stuff one could want.

My folks wanted me to have a hobby I could get involved in with folks my own age. (I was rather a cerebral chap, who, when I caught the reading bug, spent a lot of time doing it.) Closer to the late 70's, they found me one. My friends down the street were playing, and my parents approved of a game that required imagination and, more importantly, reading as part of its methodology. Hell, my dad even sat in and tried it for a while.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:27 pm

I guess my kids are real lucky then, I buy everything, game with them every week, and buy 3 copies of the exceptional stuff so each can inherit their own stuff.
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Deogolf · Post by **Deogolf** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:31 pm

My parent's never had a problem with it (except when it interfered with homework ). They watched over a couple of sessions and realized we weren't getting into trouble or losing our minds. They were happy we weren't getting into trouble and that we were doing something that actually required us to use our brains! I do believe that was in 1979-80.
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tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:51 pm

I was probably wrong to inadvertently refer to M&M as an anti-gaming movie. It's that a producer said, " Woudn't that Egbert story make a great movie of the week?" And, it's very likely that Tom Hanks has probably said, "I did THAT film???"
Stephen, I do remember that Dark Star is your film of choice. That said, I definately remember that Todd?, and Mark Sandy had more knowledge than one should admit to about Battle Beyond the Stars. Then again, so do I. Hell, I actually own that Richard Thomas classic on DVD. hehe

As for getting McBain to actually screen Mazes and Monsters(w/live commentary by James Ward)...GO FOR IT! I say that with a great deal of trepidation. Let's face it, that's an hour and a half of TrollCon that we'll never get back. On the other hand, a movie night at the end of each day would be cool. Mazes and Monsters, This is Spinal Tap, Battle Beyond the Stars, Cannonball Run, Flash Gordon, or Dark Star. The possibilities are limitless! The only problem...most of us are 35-50-something years old. Can we stay up that late, and make it to Troll Con on time each day??

gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:04 pm

Deogolf wrote:
(except when it interfered with homework ).

My folks wouldn't have had trouble with this either. The English don't believe in homework. School work should be done at school. I never took homework home.
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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:11 pm

My parents did not allow me to have RPGs. I had to hide the ones I sneaked into the house. If they knew I had a friend who played, I was not allowed to go to their house.

Great times.
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Deogolf · Post by **Deogolf** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:18 pm

gideon_thorne wrote:
My folks wouldn't have had trouble with this either. The English don't believe in homework. School work should be done at school. I never took homework home.

Ahh, we Colonials don't have that luxury!!
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:46 am

Thank God my parents trusted my judgement when it came to RPGs.
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Frost · Post by **Frost** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:59 am

My older brother was the first one who brought the game into our house. I remember that he ran a session for my whole family (I was really little, but I remember my PC had a ring of shooting stars). I later came to realize that was my parents seeing what D&D was all about. Considering that my brother kept on playing and taught me how to play, it must have seemed fine with my folks.
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tylermo · Post by **tylermo** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:15 pm

After playing D&D basic and AD&D with some friends in the early 80's, I asked my mom about buying it. She said no. Don't get me wrong, my mom( a WONDERFUL woman incidently) didn't go on a raging warpath, or never tried to restrict us totally from TV, movies, or music, etc. Mom was in her early 30's at the time, and probably picked up on things said in the media or church. Mind you, she was NOT an un-educated idiot, and never made any ridiculous claims about the game. I think it was merely based on perceptions at the time. I tried to convince her that my other friend's religious families were letting them play, but to no avail. She didn't forbid me to play the game at other people's houses for what it's worth. I may not have purchased D&D in 1983, but she did pick up Star Frontiers instead. So, it wasn't all bad. Probably giving a bad impression, but it's far from the truth. We were raised well, and we didn't live in complete lock-down. Pop culture, unless it got into filth, too much language, sex, or graphic violence, was alive in well in our home in the 70's and 80's. Anyway, I'm glad I wasn't totally cut off from things like some other people I knew. I really felt for them. Those kids weren't drinking, drugging, or having sex, but the big concerns seemed to be rock music, D&D, and other light-weight nonsense.

Hrolfgar · Post by **Hrolfgar** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:45 am

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Hey Jim,

I've heard this quite a bit from you, Gary and the crew; but I'm curious what do you think would have happened to D&D had this kid not done this. Were the sales on a trajectory? or was it definitely because of this kid's goofy road trip?

Steve

I've often wondered about this as well. As a freshmen at Michigan State in '81, I kept my D&D books hid in my dorm after being asked 2 or 3 times if I played this game in the steam tunnels (or some secret abandoned sewer )