City Builder

Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:46 pm

Looks pretty good. Of course, I'm a fool for these types of supplements. From the preview, it looks pretty nice. Apparently it came out in installments, but looks to be offered in a complete format.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:58 pm

Yeah, I followed its releases but the reviews I read for it at the time had me wondering if I would be happy with it.
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Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:04 pm

It says that it's compatible with d20 and 3.5, so it shouldn't be too big a stretch for C&C. What have you seen, specifically, Tree? Or what has you concerned? I've seen a few threads talking about it (ENWorld) and seen a review, but everything seemed positive to me. Unless this has something specific to do with it's usefulness in your particular game, or something I'm otherwise missing.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:12 pm

I believe the reviews I read that worried me were over on Paizo.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:26 pm

I checked Paizo and could not find the reviews that were done for each individual PDF section, I guess they got erased once they compiled it into one PDF.
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Sir Osis of Liver · Post by **Sir Osis of Liver** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:31 pm

I picked these up in the installments and love them. I think they're a great resource. The other one I'm going back to is Johnn Four's NPC Essentials. It's a nice primer on NPC creation. Similar to Insidiae, but a little different take. Good stuff.

Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:24 pm

Tree, I'm not doubting you had any concerns. I was just wondering what you saw that made you skittish.

I'm mulling it over, especially since a copy of the old Chaosium/Midkemia Cities supplement currently escapes me...
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:44 pm

Are you aware that Flying Buffalo still is selling several of their City books? Not exactly the same kind of product, but they are great for NPC personalities.

I do not remember exactly what was said, which is part fo why I looked for the reviews, but if Osis likes it then I will probably end up getting it.
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Go0gleplex · Post by **Go0gleplex** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:50 pm

That looks like it would be useful in some respects. Not so useful in others...at least to me. Probably the biggest help is what sounds like a primer on mediaeval planning.
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CharlieRock · Post by **CharlieRock** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:28 am

Would one of you guys like to compare this to other books in a similar theme?

I know somebody mentioned Flying Buffalo's CityBooks, but what makes this one different?

How about Legends & Lairs' CityWorks? Or WotC's CityScape?
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Sir Osis of Liver · Post by **Sir Osis of Liver** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:33 am

The City Builder series is all about adventure hooks and building encounters in these different parts of town. They're not about mechanics, rules, prestige classes etc. It's really made, imo, for a RP-intensive campaign.

CharlieRock · Post by **CharlieRock** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:15 am

Sir Osis of Liver wrote:
The City Builder series is all about adventure hooks and building encounters in these different parts of town. They're not about mechanics, rules, prestige classes etc. It's really made, imo, for a RP-intensive campaign.

So it is a lot like Flying Buffalo's books or Green Ronin's City Quarters and a lot less like Cityworks and Cityscape?
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dunbruha · Post by **dunbruha** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:07 am

It looks interesting, but I'm not paying that much for a pdf...

Sir Osis of Liver · Post by **Sir Osis of Liver** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:57 am

CharlieRock wrote:
So it is a lot like Flying Buffalo's books or Green Ronin's City Quarters and a lot less like Cityworks and Cityscape?

I'm not all that familiar with the FB stuff, but to me, it's definitely not like Cityscape. That's not to say that I didn't find Cityscape useful, as I think it was one of the few books that came out during the Era of Splat that was actually quite solid. In some ways, it reminds me of the GFW Nation Builder book in its scope, with some elements of Insidiae thrown in.

Lord Dynel · Post by **Lord Dynel** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:25 am

It looks interesting. I'm glad it's not filled with prestige classes and stuff - I don't need any of that stuff. I like things that talk about the building of such things (like A Magical Medieval Society: Western Europe, for example) so if it talks about the ins and outs of city construction, it's good with me.
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Hrolfgar · Post by **Hrolfgar** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:11 am

Lord Dynel wrote:
Tree, I'm not doubting you had any concerns. I was just wondering what you saw that made you skittish.

I'm mulling it over, especially since a copy of the old Chaosium/Midkemia Cities supplement currently escapes me...

That pdf look nice but kindy pricy. The old Cities supplement is a great product I've used for years. I suppose this is a pricy collectible now.