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Treebore wrote:
The only thing irritating me so far is the nearly 20 pages of telling me how to DM in the GM book.

Yeah, I think thats the point of the set though. This is shooting for the modern equivalency of the Red Box. I hope they progress it much the same way as the BECMI sets.

It looks interesting enoughso far that I'll probably give this a shot when our current camapign winds down, but that is a ways off.

The video game is freakin awesome and got me fairly interested in the setting itself. I'm looking forward to playing through it again as a different character. My dorf rocked though.

concobar wrote:
This thread is hilariously ironic.

... Then 4e might send you into an episode of Tasha's Hideous Laughter

DangerDwarf wrote:
Yeah, I think thats the point of the set though. This is shooting for the modern equivalency of the Red Box. I hope they progress it much the same way as the BECMI sets.

It looks interesting enoughso far that I'll probably give this a shot when our current camapign winds down, but that is a ways off.

The video game is freakin awesome and got me fairly interested in the setting itself. I'm looking forward to playing through it again as a different character. My dorf rocked though.

Were you a "brand" or a Noble Dwarf? The stories come out quite differently if you follow their logical path.

DangerDwarf wrote:
Yeah, I think thats the point of the set though. This is shooting for the modern equivalency of the Red Box. I hope they progress it much the same way as the BECMI sets.

It looks interesting enoughso far that I'll probably give this a shot when our current camapign winds down, but that is a ways off.

The video game is freakin awesome and got me fairly interested in the setting itself. I'm looking forward to playing through it again as a different character. My dorf rocked though.

At their price point for each boxed set, I may just wait for the Cyclopedia version.

So, any quick thoughts from those who've got the PDF?

Breakdaddy wrote:
Were you a "brand" or a Noble Dwarf? The stories come out quite differently if you follow their logical path.

Noble. Really enjoyed the story too. Looking forward to checking out the stories for the others. Gotta say this is one of the few RPG's I'm itching to replay.

anglefish wrote:
At their price point for each boxed set, I may just wait for the Cyclopedia version.

The price point doesn't bother me. It's in line with all the other box sets out there.

jaguar451 wrote:
So, any quick thoughts from those who've got the PDF?

The system looks pretty simple and straight forward. I dig that. Nothing especially ground breaking but it looks to be a solid, easy to learn system.

The "Stunts" aspect of combat looks pretty cool though. Kinda like the game's equivalency of a Crit. When you roll doubles on a successful attack roll you get a certain number of Stunt Points you can use immediately to do cool shit. Various stunts have various costs. Looks like a cool alternative to standard crits with easy, fast adjudication still.

Just got a chance to play the video game. Started playing as a mage. Got thru the intro, which was pretty cool btw. I had all day to play the following day, went to play a little Borderlands then was gonna dive headlong into Dragon Age annnnnnnddd....Red Ring of Death! Called Xbox support, got a live person after only an hour. Was then informed that my warranty had expired and that Xbox will no longer replace consoles for the dreaded RROD but the will fix it for $100 plus shipping. This is the third RROD that has happened to me. So I think I'm done with Xbox till they actually fix the problem. Looks like I have a stack of now useless games. Guess I'll have to pick it up for the PC if I actually want to enjoy Dragon Age. ***long exasperrated sigh***
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Oh, and another aspect of the mechanics I found interesting was that of the "Dragon Dice".

Ability checks use 3d6. One of the d6's should be another color, that is the Dragon Dice.

When making an ability check, degree of success isn't measured by how high you roll over the TN. On a successful check, the degree of success is determined by the number that the Dragon Die comes up on that particular succesful check. So, if you succeed with a roll of 12 (6, 5 and1 for example), and on that roll of 12 the Dragon die was the 1, you barely succeed. If the dragon die was the 6 however it was a massive success. Randomness within randomness. Nifty.

Ah. Reminds me of the Wild Die from D6.

RROD BLOWS!!!

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Yes it does, part of why we went to 360. Now it only kills discs if someone bumps the station while its being played.

As for Dragon Age a good friend of mine has been sending me links and excerpts of posts, particularly on sites I don't go to, and I find it funny to see the same pattern occur again.

Meaning they come on websites complaining that the game doesn't do X, Y, Z, A, B, C, etc... when it does. Clearly showing that they are lazy dumb asses who cannot be bothered to read the game rules with any degree of real comprehension and then go out and publicly announce their totally incorrect "facts" about the game.

Still, the only reason this stupidity bugs me is these are the same people who will then claim how well they comprehend rules mechanics, balance, etc... and argue all day long since they think they are experts when their reading abilities suck butt in the first place. Including the rules they so clearly never comprehended in the first place.

I see this happen with practically every game, 4E, C&C, Dragon Age, 3E, L5R, GURPS, Starblazers, Qin, ad infinitum. In fact, I cannot think of any game this hasn't happened to.

I really wish they would get off their butts and learn to read, and understand what they read, before acting like they know anything.
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Order a copy of the rpg and you can get the PDF with it. Picked it up and started reading it. Pretty cool stuff. Looking forward to running it.
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I have several friends who purchased the Green Ronin boxed set, and they said they were very disappointed with it. Now, you guys are saying you really enjoyed it. That leaves me confused.
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dutch206 wrote:
I have several friends who purchased the Green Ronin boxed set, and they said they were very disappointed with it. Now, you guys are saying you really enjoyed it. That leaves me confused.

Maybe I can help (or not):

If you are looking for a game that closely mimics the rules of the cRPG and provides the complete system in one box, you will be dissapointed. If you are looking for all of the extra subclasses skill and ability trees, you will be dissapointed. If, on the other hand, you are looking for a game that attempts to capture the flavor of the setting material using a rules light, free flow system, you may enjoy this set. I think the majority of the crowd here on the TLG forums (myself included) are predisposed to like this sort of game.

dutch206 wrote:
I have several friends who purchased the Green Ronin boxed set, and they said they were very disappointed with it. Now, you guys are saying you really enjoyed it. That leaves me confused.

Yeah, to get all the cool of the video game stuff your going to have to buy all the sets.

Pramas designed this first boxed set to be as "new gamer friendly" as possible, so many of the options and stuff you see in the game will be in the rest of the boxed sets. This one is aimed at being a beginners set for first time gamers, since GR hopes to pull in a lot of those with this license. It works in reverse too, it made me order the X box 360 version when I had no desire to do so before.
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I think you'll dig the game Treebore. The story is deep and the gameplay is easy to get used to. I had to end up getting in for PC (see my RROD post above). I'm having a blast frying Darkspawn with my mage.
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Has anyone given the PnP game a test play yet?

Irony.
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cinderblock wrote:
I think you'll dig the game Treebore. The story is deep and the gameplay is easy to get used to. I had to end up getting in for PC (see my RROD post above). I'm having a blast frying Darkspawn with my mage.

I agree the story is deep, best I have seen, but I also don't play a lot of these games, very few, in fact.

I am playing the Grey Warden Fighter my first time out.
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concobar wrote:
Irony.

I've gotta ask what you mean by this. This is the second time you've said it in this thread.

Breakdaddy wrote:
I've gotta ask what you mean by this. This is the second time you've said it in this thread.

LOL!

Actually, I got it. In fact, I also got and chuckled how he was WOW'd by the game (I'm paraphrasing here).

Basically, some of the comments on 4th edition that have been made on these boards is how similar to a video game like 'WOW' (World of Warcraft) and other console game experiences. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the fact that some people said things about 4th Edition being very 'videogame-ish' and are now giving some interesting praise to a pen and paper roleplaying game that is actually derived from a video game sort of ironic.

Concobar -- please correct me if I'm wrong but this is how I'm reading it.

That said, I haven't seen Dragon Age other than the console (xbox) version. I couldn't even begin to compare the first box set to some of the D&D 4E rules in terms of how they 'appear'. I have heard an emphasis on simplicity and stuff but, I suppose that even 4E has a bunch of simplicity when compared to 3.x. That said, the way that 4E works with miniatures and the method that Dragon Age (I've read) takes is completely different. I heard there was less than a paragraph mentioning mini's in the Dragon Age pnp game when 4E well... is a miniatures game.

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moriarty777 wrote:
LOL!

Actually, I got it. In fact, I also got and chuckled how he was WOW'd by the game (I'm paraphrasing here).

Basically, some of the comments on 4th edition that have been made on these boards is how similar to a video game like 'WOW' (World of Warcraft) and other console game experiences. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the fact that some people said things about 4th Edition being very 'videogame-ish' and are now giving some interesting praise to a pen and paper roleplaying game that is actually derived from a video game sort of ironic.

Concobar -- please correct me if I'm wrong but this is how I'm reading it.

That said, I haven't seen Dragon Age other than the console (xbox) version. I couldn't even begin to compare the first box set to some of the D&D 4E rules in terms of how they 'appear'. I have heard an emphasis on simplicity and stuff but, I suppose that even 4E has a bunch of simplicity when compared to 3.x. That said, the way that 4E works with miniatures and the method that Dragon Age (I've read) takes is completely different. I heard there was less than a paragraph mentioning mini's in the Dragon Age pnp game when 4E well... is a miniatures game.

M

That's what I got out of it, I just don't understand why the point is being belaboured. I've got no disdain for 4e, WoW, or any system in particular, so I guess I don't understand who this is supposed to be directed at. Not trying to be harsh about it, I just thought if that was the point that was being made, it was probably made the first time and didn't need a revisit. Not in the same thread at least.

moriarty777 wrote:
Concobar -- please correct me if I'm wrong but this is how I'm reading it.

M

You are right sir. Personally I find this whole thread to be hilarious. That said If you are going to play a human noble fighter do yourself a favor and do not train in 2h weapons. Best bet is to go duel wield.

On a mage Full Ice spec + full death spec = win.

Train Morrigan to heal asap.

Tactics tactics tactics

The dragon age PnP game is ok. It may become a better game as more material is released but currently it is a bit too bare bones for me.

Breakdaddy.. The point is made because it amuses me and for no other reason. why so defensive?
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concobar wrote:
You are right sir. Personally I find this whole thread to be hilarious. That said If you are going to play a human noble fighter do yourself a favor and do not train in 2h weapons. Best bet is to go duel wield.

On a mage Full Ice spec + full death spec = win.

Train Morrigan to heal asap.

Tactics tactics tactics

The dragon age PnP game is ok. It may become a better game as more material is released but currently it is a bit too bare bones for me.

Breakdaddy.. The point is made because it amuses me and for no other reason. why so defensive?

I dont know if defensive is what I was, although it may seem so. I found it cryptic and irritating so Im glad you clarified.

Breakdaddy wrote:
I dont know if defensive is what I was, although it may seem so. I found it cryptic and irritating so Im glad you clarified.

Ya, you need to be an obvious and clear PITA like me, or Breakdaddy gets confused.
I might check out the video game. It actually sounds kinda fun.
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gideon_thorne wrote:
Ya, you need to be an obvious and clear PITA like me, or Breakdaddy gets confused.
I might check out the video game. It actually sounds kinda fun.

The video game is loads of fun. One of my favorite of the genre, ever.

You? A PiTA??? SAY IT AINT SO, CHIEFtAiN

Breakdaddy wrote:
The video game is loads of fun. One of my favorite of the genre, ever.

You? A PiTA??? SAY IT AINT SO, CHIEFtAiN

Everyone's gotta have a hobby.
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gideon_thorne wrote:
Ya, you need to be an obvious and clear PITA like me, or Breakdaddy gets confused.
I might check out the video game. It actually sounds kinda fun.

If i were going to suggest any video game to a friend it would be Dragon age. Play it on PC if possible. This video game will make who ever plays it a better GM for PnP games.
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