Troll Lord Games

Kayolan wrote:

Rigon wrote:After trying to come up with a different character concept, I've decided to stick with the Bravo. I think I can work a backstory for it. More to come when I get it worked on.

R-

There's a lot of variety with the Bravo, basically it's more of a fighting style and attitude than anything, and they can be found in any society in one form or another.

I've been working on my backstory all day while I was at work so I have a good idea how too make it work.

R-

Rigon wrote:

Kayolan wrote:

Rigon wrote:After trying to come up with a different character concept, I've decided to stick with the Bravo. I think I can work a backstory for it. More to come when I get it worked on.

R-

There's a lot of variety with the Bravo, basically it's more of a fighting style and attitude than anything, and they can be found in any society in one form or another.

I've been working on my backstory all day while I was at work so I have a good idea how too make it work.

R-

Well, it will nice to see how someone else plays a swashbuckler.

Now for name and back story, .... Luppa is a great name and ...

Lurker wrote:

Rigon wrote:

Kayolan wrote:

Rigon wrote:After trying to come up with a different character concept, I've decided to stick with the Bravo. I think I can work a backstory for it. More to come when I get it worked on.

R-

There's a lot of variety with the Bravo, basically it's more of a fighting style and attitude than anything, and they can be found in any society in one form or another.

I've been working on my backstory all day while I was at work so I have a good idea how too make it work.

R-

Well, it will nice to see how someone else plays a swashbuckler.

Now for name and back story, .... Luppa is a great name and ...

I have a name picked out and a backstory (similar, yet different to Luppa's). Just need to get everything typed up. I should have time to do it at some point tonight.

R-

Posted my character back on page 1.

Let me know if you want anything changed.

Lurker wrote:Posted my character back on page 1.

Let me know if you want anything changed.

I can imagine we have shared more than few good stout ales deciding who pulled who out of the bears grasp!

Character added (mostly) to my first post in the thread.

R-

Rigon wrote:I might, depending on he day/time.

R-

Edit on 8/16/15 Character sheet:

Name: Antal Varga (the Black)
Race: Human
Order: Bravo
Rank: Rake (9th)
1st Ability: Swashbuckling
Pantheon: Tenoric
Description: Antal is of middling height (5'8) and build (170 lbs). He has blond hair, cropped short. His eyes are a light gray and he has a stylize mustache and beard. He dresses exclusively in dark (black) clothes. This has lead to his epithet of “the Black.”
Knack:
Quirk:
Repute:
Disrepute:
Dark Repute:

Base Ratings
Health: 43 [40 +1 (random increase) +1 (swashbuckling) +1 (unarmed combat)]
Precision: 61 [48 +5 (random increase) +1 (swashbuckling) +2 (weapons) +2 (tricks) +2 (minstrelsy) +1 (unarmed combat)]
Speed: 14 [12 +1.5 (random increase) +0.25 (swashbuckling) +0.25 (unarmed combat)]
AEP:

Disaster Avoidance Ratings
2 x Speed: 28
3 x Speed: 42
4 x Speed: 56
5 x Speed: 70

Abilities and Ability Scores
1st: Swashbuckling 58 [53 +3 (11th rank) +2 (9th rank)]
2nd: Weapons 53 [49 +2 (10th rank) +2 (9th rank)]
3rd:Tricks 41 [37 +2 (10th rank) +2 9th rank)]
4th: Minstrelsy 26 [24 +2 (9th rank)]
5th: Unarmed Combat 10

Arms
Cut & thrust sword w/scabbard (HB: 4-20; HC: Penetration; R: 3; Sp: 4; Pr: 10)
Thrusting sword w/scabbard (HB: 3-20; HC: Penetration; R: 4; Sp: 3; Pr: 20)
Light bow (HB: 1-20; HC: Penetration; R:50/150/300; Sp: 1; Pr: 5/0/0) -Quiver w/12 arrows
6 Throwing Knives (HB: 1-20; Penetration; R: 52; Sp:2; Pr 5)
+2 to hit and harm with thrown weapons; +2 feet to range of thrown weapon (Minstrelsy)
+4 to Harm (Tricks)

Armor
Half cloth garment armor (PP: 3 or 4; SL: 0; HA: 44)
Half leather armor (PP: 5 or 6; SL: 0.5; HA: 80)
+6 to protection, -10 to check to parry (Swashbuckling, Unarmed Combat)

Equipment
Bow Case
2 Sheafs of 24 arrows (48)
Kit of armor repair tools
2 Wound healing salve – 7 applications (14)
2 Burn healing salve – 7 applications (14)
1 dose bottle of poison antidote
Ordinary rope line, 30 foot coil
1 quart water gourd canteen with a leather thong
Mandolin
Gelding horse

Clothes
Good suit of dark clothing with a hat
Dark cloak with a hood
Broad leather belt
Pair of leather belt pouches
High, hard-soled boots

Coin of the realm
$3600 (still need to buy some more equipment)

Background
(to be added when I get a chance to write it up)

R-

Ok, so there are a few things that are incorrect with your Avatar:

1. When you choose your 5th Ability at 10%, you do not add in any points to your Base Ratings for that Ability. So your Unarmed Combat does not add a point to Health, Precision and .25 to Speed.

2. When you start at 9th Rank or higher (which is lower numerically), you bypass all of the bonuses the previous Ranks would give, you only add the bonuses for 9th Rank, and then whatever you get for 8th Rank if you have a high enough Swashbuckling Ability, in which case you do.

3. The 5th Ability will always start at 10% no matter what for all beginning Avatars. Even if your Rank says you add to it, this is not the case for starting Avatars in that Rank, but only for those that work up to that point through play.

4. I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but you can only take one cash option pick among all of your list picks, that means one cash option only, not one for each list allotment. Multiples of the same items are allowed, and remember, you get a free sword of your choice for being an 8th Rank Bravo.


Here is your adjusted Avatar Record:


Name: Antal Varga (the Black)
Race: Human
Order: Bravo
Rank: Daredevil (8th)
1st Ability: Swashbuckling
Pantheon: Tenoric
Description: Antal is of middling height (5'8) and build (170 lbs). He has blond hair, cropped short. His eyes are a light gray and he has a stylize mustache and beard. He dresses exclusively in dark (black) clothes. This has lead to his epithet of “the Black.”
Knack:
Quirk:
Repute:
Disrepute:
Dark Repute:

Base Ratings
Health: 42 [40 +1 (random increase) +1 (swashbuckling)]
Precision: 60 [48 +5 (random increase) +1 (swashbuckling) +2 (weapons) +2 (tricks) +2 (minstrelsy)]
Speed: 13.75 [12 +1.5 (random increase) +0.25 (swashbuckling)]
AEP:

Disaster Avoidance Ratings
2 x Speed: 28
3 x Speed: 42
4 x Speed: 55
5 x Speed: 69

Abilities and Ability Scores
1st: Swashbuckling 62 [60 +2 (9th rank)]
2nd: Weapons 51 [48 +2 (9th rank) +1 (8th rank)]
3rd: Tricks 39 [36 +2 (9th rank) +1 (8th rank)]
4th: Minstrelsy 27 [24 +2 (9th rank) +1 (8th rank)]
5th: Unarmed Combat 10

Arms
Cut & thrust sword w/scabbard (HB: 4-20; HC: Penetration; R: 3; Sp: 4; Pr: 10)
Thrusting sword w/scabbard (HB: 3-20; HC: Penetration; R: 4; Sp: 3; Pr: 20)
Light bow (HB: 1-20; HC: Penetration; R:50/150/300; Sp: 1; Pr: 5/0/0) -Quiver w/12 arrows
6 Throwing Knives (HB: 1-20; Penetration; R: 52; Sp:2; Pr 5)
+2 to hit and harm with thrown weapons; +2 feet to range of thrown weapon (Minstrelsy)
+3 to Harm (Tricks)

Armor
Half cloth garment armor (PP: 3 or 4; SL: 0; HA: 44)
Half leather armor (PP: 5 or 6; SL: 0.5; HA: 80)
+6 to protection, -10 to check to parry (Swashbuckling, Unarmed Combat)

Equipment
Bow Case
2 Sheafs of 24 arrows (48)
Kit of armor repair tools
2 Wound healing salve – 7 applications (14)
2 Burn healing salve – 7 applications (14)
1 dose bottle of poison antidote
Ordinary rope line, 30 foot coil
1 quart water gourd canteen with a leather thong
Mandolin
Gelding horse

Clothes
Good suit of dark clothing with a hat
Dark cloak with a hood
Broad leather belt
Pair of leather belt pouches
High, hard-soled boots

Coin of the realm
$3600 (still need to buy some more equipment)

Background
(to be added when I get a chance to write it up)

Lurker, your Archery Ability should be at 10%, all starting Avatars have their 5th Ability at 10% regardless of any Rank bonuses. Later this can raised through play however.

Aergraith, noticed your Savagery is at 17% (as your 5th Ability). As a starting Avatar your 5th Ability must be at a fixed 10% despite any bonuses your Rank says to the contrary. This Ability can of course be raised in the future.

Rhuvein wrote:

Buttmonkey wrote:I'm not playing, but folks who don't have the rules may want to track down Perilous Journeys. It's a clone of LA with the weird terminology eliminated. I don't know how close it is to RAW LA, but people have reviewed it favorably.

What people?

It's a crap, shit, and a stupid attempt at a clone! The clown that wrote it is a moron and was quite adversarial towards Gary. His "clone" is awful and "soulless"!

I saw some positive feedback for PJ in this Dragonsfoot thread. I have not looked at PJ personally and was only passing on what I've heard. Yours is the first really negative review I've seen (admittedly, I haven't really dug into things to see what people outside that DF thread have to say). Looking back at that DF thread, it points out that PJ added stuff onto the skeleton of LA, so it's probably not a useful clone that would have allowed someone to play in an LA game seamlessly anyway.

Enough about PJ. I'll get my nose out of this thread and let it get back on topic. Have fun with your LA game, guys (and gals).

Kayolan wrote:Lurker, your Archery Ability should be at 10%, all starting Avatars have their 5th Ability at 10% regardless of any Rank bonuses. Later this can raised through play however.

Good catch, I missed it (I had notes on progressing and improving abilities and such. I must have jotted down the wrong score when I typed it up. I'll double check all the other scores to make sure I didn't mess anything else up).

One question, a lot of the abilities have overlap with other abilities. Is it ok that I tied my ranging ability with some of the hunting abilities. It does refer to hunting and poaching in the ranging explanation. But, I a not sure I didn't over emphasize the hunting effects of ranging in my background and how I picture my character being.

Treebore wrote:

Lurker wrote:Posted my character back on page 1.

Let me know if you want anything changed.

I can imagine we have shared more than few good stout ales deciding who pulled who out of the bears grasp!

Rgr that,... I can hear it now

"It isn't my fault that I had my bow out ready for the stag to break from the stand of birch trees down by the stream when the bear charged from the cedars on the hill top. You know I'm not a good shot with my bow when something is charging. If you'd gotten your horse turned quicker you'd still be as smooth cheeked as a Celt maid" ... taking another swig and going into another hunting story ...

Lurker wrote:One question, a lot of the abilities have overlap with other abilities. Is it ok that I tied my ranging ability with some of the hunting abilities. It does refer to hunting and poaching in the ranging explanation. But, I a not sure I didn't over emphasize the hunting effects of ranging in my background and how I picture my character being.

Ranging and Hunting do have a lot of overlap, both can be used to hunt game.

Kayolan wrote:

Lurker wrote:One question, a lot of the abilities have overlap with other abilities. Is it ok that I tied my ranging ability with some of the hunting abilities. It does refer to hunting and poaching in the ranging explanation. But, I a not sure I didn't over emphasize the hunting effects of ranging in my background and how I picture my character being.

Ranging and Hunting do have a lot of overlap, both can be used to hunt game.

Yeah, thats one of the challenges for generalizing skills so broadly, but I like it, since that is to a great degree how I treat such things in my C&C game. Just there, it is all tied to attributes, rather than broad skill categories. Of course, if my House Rules are ever followed, skills can get quit specific.

Values of typical coins for this campaign in LA dollars:

Platinum: $1,000
Gold: $500
Electrum: $275
Silver: $10
Nickel: $1.88
Nickel-silver: $5
Copper: $1
Bronze: $1
Adamantine: $4,500
Mithril: $3,000
Oracalcum: $10,000
Tilferium: $2,500
Xagium: $5,000

Kayolan wrote:Here is your adjusted Avatar Record:


Name: Antal Varga (the Black)
Race: Human
Order: Bravo
Rank: Daredevil (8th)
1st Ability: Swashbuckling
Pantheon: Tenoric
Description: Antal is of middling height (5'8) and build (170 lbs). He has blond hair, cropped short. His eyes are a light gray and he has a stylize mustache and beard. He dresses exclusively in dark (black) clothes. This has lead to his epithet of “the Black.”
Knack:
Quirk:
Repute:
Disrepute:
Dark Repute:

Base Ratings
Health: 42 [40 +1 (random increase) +1 (swashbuckling)]
Precision: 60 [48 +5 (random increase) +1 (swashbuckling) +2 (weapons) +2 (tricks) +2 (minstrelsy)]
Speed: 13.75 [12 +1.5 (random increase) +0.25 (swashbuckling)]
AEP:

Disaster Avoidance Ratings
2 x Speed: 28
3 x Speed: 42
4 x Speed: 55
5 x Speed: 69

Abilities and Ability Scores
1st: Swashbuckling 62 [60 +2 (9th rank)]
2nd: Weapons 51 [48 +2 (9th rank) +1 (8th rank)]
3rd: Tricks 39 [36 +2 (9th rank) +1 (8th rank)]
4th: Minstrelsy 27 [24 +2 (9th rank) +1 (8th rank)]
5th: Unarmed Combat 10

Arms
Cut & thrust sword w/scabbard (HB: 4-20; HC: Penetration; R: 3; Sp: 4; Pr: 10)
Thrusting sword w/scabbard (HB: 3-20; HC: Penetration; R: 4; Sp: 3; Pr: 20)
Light bow (HB: 1-20; HC: Penetration; R:50/150/300; Sp: 1; Pr: 5/0/0) -Quiver w/12 arrows
6 Throwing Knives (HB: 1-20; Penetration; R: 52; Sp:2; Pr 5)
+2 to hit and harm with thrown weapons; +2 feet to range of thrown weapon (Minstrelsy)
+3 to Harm (Tricks)

Armor
Half cloth garment armor (PP: 3 or 4; SL: 0; HA: 44)
Half leather armor (PP: 5 or 6; SL: 0.5; HA: 80)
+6 to protection, -10 to check to parry (Swashbuckling, Unarmed Combat)

Equipment
Bow Case
2 Sheafs of 24 arrows (48)
Kit of armor repair tools
2 Wound healing salve – 7 applications (14)
2 Burn healing salve – 7 applications (14)
1 dose bottle of poison antidote
Ordinary rope line, 30 foot coil
1 quart water gourd canteen with a leather thong
Mandolin
Gelding horse

Clothes
Good suit of dark clothing with a hat
Dark cloak with a hood
Broad leather belt
Pair of leather belt pouches
High, hard-soled boots

Coin of the realm
$3600 (still need to buy some more equipment)

Background
(to be added when I get a chance to write it up)

OK, I'm confused on all this. I'll just wait until the first session to figure it out.

R-

Rigon wrote: OK, I'm confused on all this. I'll just wait until the first session to figure it out.

R-

I can answer any questions you have before then, it's actually not as complicated as it may seem. I'm up for doing a Skype call as well if you want, that goes for all of you guys working on your Avatars.

Kayolan wrote:

Rigon wrote: OK, I'm confused on all this. I'll just wait until the first session to figure it out.

R-

I can answer any questions you have before then, it's actually not as complicated as it may seem. I'm up for doing a Skype call as well if you want, that goes for all of you guys working on your Avatars.

A Skype call might not be a bad idea. It's just finding the time to do it.

R-

Do we have to buy a saddle separately from the horse? I am guessing they are included since they were not mentioned in the creating of the Noble character as being needed. Then again, for some reason, saddles are not a pick on any of the lists, and considering how expensive they are, only someone who can get a pick on the High list would even have the coin to buy a Saddle, riding and War at $5,000.00. So again, I am inclined to think Saddles, etc... are included in the purchase of the various riding horses, and the War saddle with the War Horses. That, or they should be added as picks on the High and Military lists.

Treebore wrote:Do we have to buy a saddle separately from the horse? I am guessing they are included since they were not mentioned in the creating of the Noble character as being needed. Then again, for some reason, saddles are not a pick on any of the lists, and considering how expensive they are, only someone who can get a pick on the High list would even have the coin to buy a Saddle, riding and War at $5,000.00. So again, I am inclined to think Saddles, etc... are included in the purchase of the various riding horses, and the War saddle with the War Horses. That, or they should be added as picks on the High and Military lists.

I was assuming my Horse, Pack has packs too. Or some kind of rig to hang my personal packs from.

Assume that taking horses as list choices will also include saddles, stirrups, bridles, halters, reins, bits, harnesses, etc.

Kayolan wrote:Assume that taking horses as list choices will also include saddles, stirrups, bridles, halters, reins, bits, harnesses, etc.

Cool! Yeah, that is something that should be clarified right there, so lets start an errata list. A certain someone who lives in Austin is good at record keeping and annotating, etc... So I volunteer him!

Treebore wrote:

Kayolan wrote:Assume that taking horses as list choices will also include saddles, stirrups, bridles, halters, reins, bits, harnesses, etc.

Cool! Yeah, that is something that should be clarified right there, so lets start an errata list. A certain someone who lives in Austin is good at record keeping and annotating, etc... So I volunteer him!

I second that motion, All who agree raise your hand, .... all opposed ... And by a unanimous vote, the motion carries !

I put my updated avatar record on the first page. I think I have everything correct this time.

R-

LEGENDARY ADVENTURE™

Avatar Record Sheet

Avatar Name: Roweena
Race: Ilf
Gender: Female
Order: Warlock
Rank: ?

Chosen Abilities:

Necrourgy (speed) 64 (100%)
Arcana (speed) 51 (80%)


Mandatory abilities and scores:

Weapons (precision)45 (70%)
Hunt (precision) 38 (60%)
Stealth (precision) 32 (50%)


Additional ability:

Archery (precision) 10 ~ +1 harm

Base Ratings

Health 57
Precision 64
Speed 16

AEPs: 74

Knack:
Quirk:
Repute:
Dark Repute:
Disrepute:

Arms Carried:

Long sword
Hand catapult
Dagger


Armor:

Dockalven composite

Equipment:

Boots, hard
Caltrops
Cloak, dark
Clothing
Poison antidote
Make up
Pack donkey
Dagger + sheath 10"
Short pole arm
Acid
Wood alcohol
Salve, burn healing
Salve, would healing
Backpack
Soap, soft
Tea
Tent
Tinderbox
Wine
Herbs, medicinal
Herbs, cooking dried
Hooks, fishing
Looking glass
Tobacco + pipe
Fire amber
Blanket/bedroll
Crossbow string
Rope 30 ft.
Flute
Biscuits
Cheese
Fish, preserved
Dried fruit
Garlic
Flour
Salt
Vinegar
Wine

Magical stuff:

Memory tablet +4 . . . X3 (2 picks and 1 per rank)
Command Circle
Protection Circle
Item
Item


Avatar Description:

As above. She also wears a gold necklace with a shark gar's tooth hanging from it.

Avatar Brief Personal Facts/History:

Born in the Joterberg mountains. Mother is a mage, father is a mariner.

Avatar Motivation/Goals/Agenda:

[In progress . . updated 8/22]

Copyright © 1999 Trigee Enterprises Company. All rights reserved.
LEGENDARY ADVENTURE is the trademark of Trigee Enterprises Company.

Question for Kayo:

In the LR4AP (page 18), it shows 2 methods for ability picks for non-human avatars to be determined by the LM.

Which one will you use?

Thanks!

Rhuvein wrote:OK, I'm in.

Thinking gnome sorcerer (demonurge) or warlock!

Glad to see you have joined the game Rhu!

Rhuvein wrote:Question for Kayo:

In the LR4AP (page 18), it shows 2 methods for ability picks for non-human avatars to be determined by the LM.

Which one will you use?

Thanks!

Either one you want, you decide.

Kayolan wrote:

Rhuvein wrote:OK, I'm in.

Thinking gnome sorcerer (demonurge) or warlock!

Glad to see you have joined the game Rhu!

Thanks!

Kayolan wrote:

Rhuvein wrote:Question for Kayo:

In the LR4AP (page 18), it shows 2 methods for ability picks for non-human avatars to be determined by the LM.

Which one will you use?

Thanks!

Either one you want, you decide.

Oops, I see that paragraph is referring to equipment list picks!

But, anyway, thanks again.