Player begging on knees to join online game.

slimykuotoan · Post by **slimykuotoan** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:09 pm

Treebore wrote:
To help me be more likely to run a game you will like, tell me your likes and dislikes in a game, either here, PM, or e-mail.

I guess I'm pretty much a 'let the dice fall where they may' guy, and have difficulty playing games where the GM does whatever to advance a story line, etc.

If I win the crown of a kingdom, and then fail a dex save while walking up the stairs to my coronation and break my neck, I'm o.k. with it as long as everything was fair.

If I'm dying and find potions of healing behind the bushes, or can't ever kill the GM's favorite NPC, I get frustrated...

I feel that games that are purely story driven and arbitrary, rob players of their hard work, etc.

I'd like to be rewarded with xps for good roleplaying, not the game on a platter.

When the GM is narrator and referee only, and not god, I feel that the game is more 'real' and I am free to do what I wish and accept the consequences of my actions.

Just like 'real life': even when I 'stay in character' throughout high school, get a job afterwards and do good for all humanity, I'll still possibly get smooshed by a van while crossing the street after I get my nobel price.

At which point all of my friends will ask:"It didn't make sense! ...but he was such a good person!!, etc.

That's life.

That's my ideal situation, etc...but everyone's different.

Inkpot · Post by **Inkpot** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:25 pm

Heh...I should have amended my statement about CK's fudging dice rolls in favor of a good story with a hearty "WITHIN REASON".
Ink

P.S. Any druids in the party yet? If not, I'm thinking of being an elven druid. Let me know.....
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:35 am

Treebore wrote:
Got the PM Rigon.

jllama,

Your welcome to join, I told my kids I have to give on line people precedence, and they are reluctantly fine with it. Your number 5, I am willing to have 6.

So I have your PM and email, I have Rigon and Inkpots e-mail. I'll check to see if slimy gave his e-mail earlier in this thread. Once I get everyones's e mail I'll create a group e-mail and send everyone my house rules to decide upon.

I still need SKYPE account names for jllama, Rigon, and acerak. Plus confirmation from Acerak about the time frame.

Also check out the "rpgtonight" website and see if you guys think it will be cool to use.

OK, I'm going to sign up and will send the info. Will check out rpgtonight as well.

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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:38 am

Treebore wrote:
b o r z o i a d d i c t at yahoo dot com

No dice roller needed. If anyone feels a need to cheat thats their loss. I'm not going to sweat over it.

That will include when we game. You'll roll your own dice. If you cheat, again thats your loss, your problem. I'll be expecting you to be honest. Your integrity is up to you.

Just use my preferred method. You'll average around a 15. A super character is much more likely with it, but high stats don't intimidate me as a CK and I know that 98% of all players like high stats.

So everyone is going to have high stats, probably a few 18's, 19's after racial mod.

Nothing I can't handle.

So just worry about having a fun character, we'll have a fun game.

I DMed 3E for almost 5 years. I can handle the "high power" of C&C with ease. Heck, they are still nothing compared to RIFTS, Synnibar, and others I have played over the years.

BTW, as for monsters I do not go by the book. I modify them as I see fit in order to be challenging to you guys. So if your 10th level and you run into Trolls, don't expect them to be easy. They probably will be, unless I want it to be an important, or key, encounter. IF so then they may be 10 HD and have more attacks/round, do higher damage, etc...

Whatever it takes to make you sweat when I want you too.

Plus they will earn you more xp's and treasure.

Plus, when you read my house rules, don't think your PC's won't die. They will if you continue to fight and you should have run. Those luck points and other rules I like to use only decrease the liklihood of your PC dying, not eliminate it.

For example, I am running "Fingers of the Forsaken Hand". Last weekend 3 of the 4 characters, plus the Dwarf Fighter henchman, were all reincarnated by the Druid twice last gaming session. They are now elves and a gnome. They were human and a dwarf.

SO despite the luck points and attempts at god calls, they still died.

So only play if you can handle characters dying. Don't worry, you'll know NPC's who can bring your character back to life if you want to keep playing that PC.

Also, I like to use Bard's Gate, Endhome (from Lost City of Barakus), and Don Eamon (from the Grey Citadel) as cities in my campaigns. So if you own those familiarize yourselves. I may not use specific NPC's/shops as written in those sources, but the maps, at the very least, will help you.

If your going to use them as your place of origin let me know.

Right now I am thinking of going ahead and using Erde and placing the Highlands in the area to the Northwest of Unklars lands. If I do that you guys are going to start out in Outremere and travel to the Highlands. Going around, with a wide birth, the lands of Unklar.

So you will all probably be second level by the time you get to the highlands area. Maybe even 3rd, depending on how you guys decide to handle some stuff I'll be cooking up.

BTW, if you ever run into Eldritch Goblyns when your below 4th level I am probably expecting you to run. They are probably the deadliest species/race in Erde.

Elves are widely seriously disliked, even outright hated, in Erde, because of how they ran from Unklar. To the point where the Elves left the world of Erde until Unklar was defeated just over a century ago.

Enough elves stayed, and performed heroic deeds, some critical to the eventual defeat of Unklar, that not everyone hates elves, but don't be surprised if you play an elf and merchants refuse to do business with you, charge you a lot more than anyone else, or kick you out of their place of business.

Friends of elves can expect similiar treatment. So keep that in mind if your thinking of playing an elf.

If you want to play a class from the Netbook of Classses or Crusader 4 or 5 let me know. I'll probably be OK with it.

Another rule I need to let you know about now. No evil alignments, and no Chaotic Neutral. I don't need any help killing your PC's.

Working as a team will be expected by the time you guys reach 3rd or 4th level. Thats when I will build encounters taking good teamwork into account, anyways. If you don't play that way by then I'll still design it that way.

So I hope you guys are good at team play.

Maybe it will help if I tell you guys what I consider fun. At the core I like hard fought battles, with death being a very real possibility. I like a fair amount of magic items to be handed out. I like you guys to be rich, eventually. I may very well make you into nobility if the game goes that way.

I "play off of my players". This means what you do, what you say, will influence what direction I will take an adventure, even the whole campaign. Whether you realize it or not will be another story.

When we get to about 8th level you'll feel like your character has a history. Erde will feel very real to you. Your character will have friends, family, and you may even be married.

My current game group has gone from first level nothings to being 9th or 10th level Barons or Baroness' with spouses and even children.

So this is the kind of game we can have. If you want it to stay simple dungeon delvers and adventurers who go around amassing wealth and power by killing and destroying things, it can be that too.

I prefer having more depth than that, though. Its ultimately up to how you guys want to play, though.

Good info, thanks. I'm OK with everything. And in return, I'm very flexible. I generally look to play something other than human and something that tests/pushes C&C and the game in general to the limits.
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:41 am

Treebore wrote:
Your in Rhu. Welcome. Hope I don't disappoint ya.

As for deities, if you have the Erde stuff, great. If not you can use Norse gods. In fact, I would prefer Norse gods, the only Erde god I really like to use is St. Luther. Plus Unklar. This game isn't meant to, at this time anyways, to involve Unklar, much. Meaning I don't intend on making him the focus.

Now if you guys insist on sticking your noses into Unklars business, well, we'll see.

Heh, while I very much like the deities of Aihrde, the Norse Pantheon is what I know the most (being a direct decendent of Thor natch)!!
[But I'm OK with anything.]
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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:41 am

I'll try to make the Monday night session, but I'm probably not going to be able to any time before 11 pm EST. We are 6 days from opening night and there is still a crap load of crap to do. But I'll try.

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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:59 am

Weel, I download Skype and found my mic, I just gotta get it working, but I'm too tired to piss with it tonight. Maybe Sunday afternoon or so I'll have time to monkey with it. By the way, I'm rigon4073.

R-
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:24 am

Rigon wrote:
Weel, I download Skype and found my mic, I just gotta get it working, but I'm too tired to piss with it tonight. Maybe Sunday afternoon or so I'll have time to monkey with it. By the way, I'm rigon4073.

R-

I'll keep SKYPE open Monday even if we are done. So whenever you can get on line Monday you should still be able to ping me via SKYPE. So even if you can't make it when the rest of the group is on we can test out your SKYPE, answer each others questions, etc...

Aramis · Post by **Aramis** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:02 am

Hi all-

I hope this is the right forum. I signed up with Grimaryl over at Dragonsfoot, who I think is Treebore here.

(Wow, that sentence almost looks like spy code, now that I read it )

Looking forward to the game

Could someone (maybe Treebore?) send me the houserules etc. mentioned here, as well as the SKYPE names that people have mentioned. I have never used SKYPE so I may need a bit of a hand on that.

As I mentioned to Treebore, I am totally new to C&C (but not AD&D).

I can play a wide variety of roles. We seem to have fighters filled. Maybe some kind of shadowy spell caster for me? Is there multiclassing?

One thing not mentioned: I have played some internet games via Fantasy Grounds (chat window, dice roller, map whiteboard) and Ventrillo (a VOICE program). We used VOICE for out of character stuff/rules questions, and the chat window for in character declarations, actions, DM room descriptions etc.. I am curious to see how it works with only one communication channel (Skype VOICE). For example, does it lead to 4 people talking at once a lot? Or is there some button so once one talks, the others cannot?

I better start reading that Player's Handbook.

Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:35 am

Treebore wrote:
I'll keep SKYPE open Monday even if we are done. So whenever you can get on line Monday you should still be able to ping me via SKYPE. So even if you can't make it when the rest of the group is on we can test out your SKYPE, answer each others questions, etc...

Thanks Tree. I'll try to make it.

R-
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Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:37 am

Aramis, welcome to the Crusade! You'll pick up the rules in no time and being fimilar with AD&D, you already know most of what it takes to play C&C, imagination.

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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:41 pm

Aramis wrote:
Hi all-

I hope this is the right forum. I signed up with Grimaryl over at Dragonsfoot, who I think is Treebore here.

(Wow, that sentence almost looks like spy code, now that I read it )

Looking forward to the game

Could someone (maybe Treebore?) send me the houserules etc. mentioned here, as well as the SKYPE names that people have mentioned. I have never used SKYPE so I may need a bit of a hand on that.

As I mentioned to Treebore, I am totally new to C&C (but not AD&D).

I can play a wide variety of roles. We seem to have fighters filled. Maybe some kind of shadowy spell caster for me? Is there multiclassing?

One thing not mentioned: I have played some internet games via Fantasy Grounds (chat window, dice roller, map whiteboard) and Ventrillo (a VOICE program). We used VOICE for out of character stuff/rules questions, and the chat window for in character declarations, actions, DM room descriptions etc.. I am curious to see how it works with only one communication channel (Skype VOICE). For example, does it lead to 4 people talking at once a lot? Or is there some button so once one talks, the others cannot?

I better start reading that Player's Handbook.

Yep, I am Grimaryl over on DF.
I'm expecting the game to go like it would if we were sitting around the table. Maybe just not as much talking about non game stuff. Still pretty social, but much more focused on doing the adventure.

Granted we won't have any visual clues about who's going to talk, but I think we will adapt just fine.

When INK and I tested SKYPE the sound was better than my phone and we talked over each other a bit, so I guess we will just have to sharpen our courtesy skills about talking. IE waiting until someone else is done talking before we talk.

Irregardless of problems we'll work them out quickly and the game will hopefully move faster since I won't have to spend time pecking out room and area descriptions, etc... on the key board.

Plus I do not want to use dice rollers. I am goiing to trust everyone to be honest. I don't expect honesty to be a problem because I think we are all experienced enough gamers to know that honest dice rolls make the game exciting.

Besides, I've been a gamer for 20+ years and have a minor in Statistics. I'll have a pretty good idea if anyone is cheating anyways.

Like I said though, I am not going to sweat cheating. If someone wants to cheat they will just be cheating themselves of a better and more exciting game.

I look forward to talking to everyone on Monday.

My SKYPE ID is, I think, Treebore.TheRubyLord.

Aramis · Post by **Aramis** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:12 pm

Treebore wrote:
Yep, I am Grimaryl over on DF.
Plus I do not want to use dice rollers. I am goiing to trust everyone to be honest. I don't expect honesty to be a problem because I think we are all experienced enough gamers to know that honest dice rolls make the game exciting.

Besides, I've been a gamer for 20+ years and have a minor in Statistics. I'll have a pretty good idea if anyone is cheating anyways.

Like I said though, I am not going to sweat cheating. If someone wants to cheat they will just be cheating themselves of a better and more exciting game.

I look forward to talking to everyone on Monday.

My SKYPE ID is, I think, Treebore.TheRubyLord.

I agree with you about the "danger" of cheating. Who cares, there is no "winner" anyway. For me, rolling a 1 in the climactic battle with the dragon can be just as fun as the ol' natural 20, both in terms of how the story plays out, and the reminiscing about what happened.

Then again, ask me that after I roll two 1s in a row and die from an orcish arrow, ignobly, in a ditch
Treebore: do you need me to send you my email address to get those house rules etc?

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:22 pm

Aramis wrote:
I agree with you about the "danger" of cheating. Who cares, there is no "winner" anyway. For me, rolling a 1 in the climactic battle with the dragon can be just as fun as the ol' natural 20, both in terms of how the story plays out, and the reminiscing about what happened.

Then again, ask me that after I roll two 1s in a row and die from an orcish arrow, ignobly, in a ditch
Treebore: do you need me to send you my email address to get those house rules etc?

Yes, please. I believe you and Rhu (?) are the only ones I haven't sent the house rules to. So PM me here, or e-mail me at b o r z o i a d d i c t at yahoo dot com. Be sure to make it clear who/what your e-mailing about so my wife or I don't mark it as SPAM.

Plus I only have 3 SKYPE ID's right now. INk's, Slimy, and I don't remember who the third is.

How about everyone repost their SKYPE ID here so everyone can easily get their contacts list done before Monday evening.

EDIT: My SKYPE is treebore.therubylord

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:47 pm

These are the SKYPE ID's I have:

Rigon4073

eihort (jllama)

kuotoan

theinkpot

So I need Rhu's and whichever one of you I am blanking on the name of right now. Oh yeah, jllama (jammin llama).

I could have sworn jllama sent me his. I'll go llok through my PM's again.

Again, mine is: treebore.therubylord

EDIT: OK, jllamas is eihort, so I need Rhu and Aramis to get me their SKYPE ID's.

Hopefully, when I start up a conference call, you all will be able to easily add everyone to your SKYPE contact list.

Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:35 pm

Hey guys, I think I got Skype figured out. At least I could hear my voice (although it was soft) during the test call. I may have to check into getting a new mic. Mine is from my first computer (some thing like 8 years ago).

R-
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:41 pm

Rigon wrote:
Hey guys, I think I got Skype figured out. At least I could hear my voice (although it was soft) during the test call. I may have to check into getting a new mic. Mine is from my first computer (some thing like 8 years ago).

R-

Hey, me too. I just set it up and the playback was low. You can turn up the sound settings for microphones in windows and test it (XP).

Hmm, Skype may have some built in testing as well. I'll check it out.

Game on!!
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:43 pm

Treebore wrote:
So I need Rhu's

Hopefully, when I start up a conference call, you all will be able to easily add everyone to your SKYPE contact list.

Hi Tree. I'm Rhuvein - natch!
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:46 pm

Treebore wrote:
Hopefully, when I start up a conference call, you all will be able to easily add everyone to your SKYPE contact list.

Yep, or add them now as I'm doing, just to check it out!
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Aramis · Post by **Aramis** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:56 pm

Skype works great for me. Clear as a bell. Although there are always complications so we shall see.

My Skype name is aramisxyz. I tried for "aramis" but there seems to be a multitude of them!

Kids: tell your parents, only "authentic" Aramis products for you!

Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:02 am

I'll definiately have to get a different mic. I'll check out a headset one at wally world over the next couple of days. But other than having to hold my mic right next to my face, Skype worked out just fine.

R-
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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:11 am

Yeah, I'm very impressed with it. Crystal clear sound. I just called my daughter on her cell phone and she sounded better than either my landline or cell phone!
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"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth

slimykuotoan · Post by **slimykuotoan** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:53 pm

I still don't get the barbarian.

He's got an armor restriction and his only ability for low levels is a sixth sense against attacks...

It's like they added the barbarian for a first edition feel, but didn't know what to do with him.

Any chance Treebore, for more of an Unearthed Arcana barbarian?

ie. +2 per points of dex/con above 14?

I'd be willing to scrap most of the other stuff, icluding the pointless rage ability.

Also, could the players perhaps post their character class cohices to date?

It'd help with my selection if I can't go barbarian, etc.

Rigon · Post by **Rigon** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:26 pm

I'll be playing a half-elven bard.

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Tadhg · Post by **Tadhg** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:45 pm

I've decided to play a knight as this is the one class never played by me or anyone in my group. So, if this is OK with Treebore then, I'll be a

Elven Knight, a member of the Lunar Knights in Aihrde.

Grew up in the wild Fontenouq forest and trained at Eire Castle nearby.
Sir Jorel Lothian at your service.

[If Tree approves, I'll be wearing a silver cloak - awarded to all members, which allows the wearer to hide in the shadows (cloak of elvenkind) - and heh, hopefully he'll allow a fine mount and a Tagean hound as my companion!! ]
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Aramis · Post by **Aramis** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:19 pm

I am still trying to get a handle on exactly what I will play, but it will probably be something that: a) slings a few arcane spells around and b) stays at the back and shoots a bow

Oh, and since Rhuvein has broken the "Elf Embargo" I might be one of those too.

Edit- now that I look back through the messages here, I think Ink Pot is playing an elven druid (my second choice for a character). With the 1/2 elven bard above, we may be nearly all elves.

Strength in numbers! Darn elf hating Erdians

Inkpot · Post by **Inkpot** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:15 pm

Ayup...still working on flushing out all the details, but I'll be playing a wild elven druid of Jord.
Ink
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:38 pm

Refresh my memory Rhu, where in the Codex are the Lunar Knights, their castle, etc...?

Yeah, if everyone is going to be an elf, or half elf, I will have to change how I was going to start things off (Ie you won't start out in Outremere) and then see if I can come up with a reason why elvs would get involved in what is going on in the Highlands, which if I am remembering things correctly will be easy. I'll reread the Highlands material to day to be sure.

As for the Barbarian, if you want to write up an alternative class proposal and send it to me via e-mail we can see if we can come up with one.

As far as classes talked about so far its looking good. Having a thief, ranger, and cleric will make things easier, to the point where you will sometimes think they are criticial to have in the group. The Druid will help on the healing front, but is still nothing near as helpful as a cleric.

Just because you don't have a thief doesn't mean I won't use traps, etc...

Ranger is not critical, but would be very effective when he gets his racial enemies bonus'.

BTW, if anyone wants to use a Specialty Priest from the 2E Faiths and Avatars book I am open to working it out. It just has to be adapted to either the Norse gods or an Erde deity.

Inkpot · Post by **Inkpot** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:40 pm

So....would a druid be a bad choice, then? I can play whatever the group needs....class/race doesn't matter much to me....I'll have fun with whatever.
Ink

P.S. What time are we getting together tomorrow night...6pm PST?
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Aramis · Post by **Aramis** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:52 pm

Treebore wrote:
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Just because you don't have a thief doesn't mean I won't use traps, etc...

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Well, I will be able to help with traps, if I go with the concept I posted to you in my email.

But I refuse to take the blame when a door blows up in the front line's face . I am a mere dabbler in such things as traps

Troll Lord Games

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Jorel Lothian, elven knight