Someone told me that another C&C fan had prepared pdfs describing the various weapons and armor used in the book. I can't find these on the net anywhere. Can someone give me a link?
Thanks,
Nick
Weapon/Armor Descriptions
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Just a couple quick notes on the "ensembles" - these were a great idea to include, but a little rough around the edges.
Greek 1: Bronze arm guards were extremely rare, and were then used only for the right arm, the left being used to hold the shield. The helmet could range from what might be called a pot helm (covering just the top of the head) to more usually a full helm, covering the head, neck, and face, with only small gaps between the nasal and cheek pieces.
Greek 2: Unfortunately, iron was not used for classical Greek armor. A common later variant of the bronze cuirass and grieves was to use layered linen, probably similar in strength to what is described as "Leather Laminar" in the book (+3).
Roman 3: I'm not sure what is being described here. The Romans never used copper for armor (it's too soft), even when they were using partial bronze chest plates very early in their history. They only used scale mail very late in their history, and then only in the east - perhaps the "copper" referred to is the use of a metallic wash on the scales, which was common. They did use a reinforced chain shirt for a very long time, which could have the same modifier (+6). The Romans only very briefly used arm guards (special issue during the Dacian campaign), and wearing greaves was reserved for centurions.
Roman 4: See the comments above on arm and leg armor. Also, the lorica segmentata was notoriously difficult to maintain, requiring the full-time attention of an armourer and a regular supply chain. This is one of the reasons why its use was never universal, and it eventually fell out of favour.
Polish Hussar: The +8 modifier might be a bit generous, as this was a suit of 3/4 plate designed for cavalrymen - it also had 4-6' eagle wings attached to the back! The helm was not a Great Helm at all, but rather a reinforced nasaled helm in Turkish style, although it usually had a chainmail aventail.
Cheers,
Christopher
Greek 1: Bronze arm guards were extremely rare, and were then used only for the right arm, the left being used to hold the shield. The helmet could range from what might be called a pot helm (covering just the top of the head) to more usually a full helm, covering the head, neck, and face, with only small gaps between the nasal and cheek pieces.
Greek 2: Unfortunately, iron was not used for classical Greek armor. A common later variant of the bronze cuirass and grieves was to use layered linen, probably similar in strength to what is described as "Leather Laminar" in the book (+3).
Roman 3: I'm not sure what is being described here. The Romans never used copper for armor (it's too soft), even when they were using partial bronze chest plates very early in their history. They only used scale mail very late in their history, and then only in the east - perhaps the "copper" referred to is the use of a metallic wash on the scales, which was common. They did use a reinforced chain shirt for a very long time, which could have the same modifier (+6). The Romans only very briefly used arm guards (special issue during the Dacian campaign), and wearing greaves was reserved for centurions.
Roman 4: See the comments above on arm and leg armor. Also, the lorica segmentata was notoriously difficult to maintain, requiring the full-time attention of an armourer and a regular supply chain. This is one of the reasons why its use was never universal, and it eventually fell out of favour.
Polish Hussar: The +8 modifier might be a bit generous, as this was a suit of 3/4 plate designed for cavalrymen - it also had 4-6' eagle wings attached to the back! The helm was not a Great Helm at all, but rather a reinforced nasaled helm in Turkish style, although it usually had a chainmail aventail.
Cheers,
Christopher