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Can anyone point me towards the rules for Item Saving Throws? They are mentioned several times, but I haven't seen them.

REHowardfanatic wrote:Can anyone point me towards the rules for Item Saving Throws? They are mentioned several times, but I haven't seen them.

What there is on saving throws for magic items in the M&T is on page 89, 3rd printing.

This gets a bit more in depth treatment in the CKG under equipment wastage. The specific call out for expert or magic items is on page 154, upper right paragraph on the page.

Personally I think the umpteen pages of Item Saves in the CKG are a big mistake.

Here is a small. simple table reminiscent of 1eD&D that I use. It runs on simple prime & secondary & used with common sense or the rule of cool on what should & shouldn't require a save, it works great & doesn't take 8 pages to explain/look up.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... m&hl=en_US

Thanks to both. I can't believe I missed that!
I had just house ruled it as a flat 15 if the CK felt a save was warranted. I love the old-school table, though.

I use a system inspired by the AD&D DMG, but I may have gone into a little more "depth" than needed explaining things like what a fall means (ie, how to determine difficulty.)

zarathustra wrote:Personally I think the umpteen pages of Item Saves in the CKG are a big mistake.

Here is a small. simple table reminiscent of 1eD&D that I use. It runs on simple prime & secondary & used with common sense or the rule of cool on what should & shouldn't require a save, it works great & doesn't take 8 pages to explain/look up.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... m&hl=en_US

Love this. Nice work.

Okay, I have another missing rule--- Weapon Training, the Knight's Special Ability. What is it??

hey yeah, Weapon Training is listed in the stat block summary of abilities but not described.... I guess the ability got edited out but they missed it in the summary?

I'd say calling it a typo is a fair assessment in that Battlefield Dominance is missing from the list but included in the descriptions as well.

I thought that might be the case. I was creating Arthur and his bunch, so I wanted to be sure.
So now I have done the best of Robert E. Howard, King Arthur, a sprinkling of Robin Hood, Elric, Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser...
Next up?
Lord of the Rings!
I haven't had this much fun creating characters since Middle School. Yikes.

REHowardfanatic wrote:So now I have done the best of Robert E. Howard, King Arthur, a sprinkling of Robin Hood, Elric, Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser...
Next up?
Lord of the Rings!
I haven't had this much fun creating characters since Middle School. Yikes.

If this was Facebook, I would "like" the hell out of this comment.

~O

Omote wrote:

REHowardfanatic wrote:So now I have done the best of Robert E. Howard, King Arthur, a sprinkling of Robin Hood, Elric, Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser...
Next up?
Lord of the Rings!
I haven't had this much fun creating characters since Middle School. Yikes.

If this was Facebook, I would "like" the hell out of this comment.

~O

Indeed. But, still... the good news is this isn't Facebook.

Thanks!
I got my CKG today, so I will soon be posting my character write ups, with Beauty and Secondary Skills! Woot!