3rd Printing Barbarian

[Lobo316]

Hey Crusaders,

I know there are some of you out there that still use the 3rd printing of the barbarian. Quesiton, the "fatigue" thing, it seems a bit much to me. Isn't it already balanced in that it's only usable X amount of times per day? I guess I'm not sure why the fatigue. Has anyone removed that, or done anything any differently with regards to this? Perhaps a CON siege check or something?

[Treebore]

A CON SIEGE check is definitely in line with C&C.

[Rigon]

I have the Con bonus reduce the amount of time it takes to recover by one hour per point of bonus.

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[Lobo316]

Cool thanks guys, I'm going to adopt somthing from that, what I'm not sure yet, but definately something. Hey Treebore, what do you use for the CL? Is it a straight up attribute roll?

[Treebore]

Cool thanks guys, I'm going to adopt somthing from that, what I'm not sure yet, but definately something. Hey Treebore, what do you use for the CL? Is it a straight up attribute roll?

CL= number of hours they want to reduce the time by.

[Lobo316]

Does anyone ignore the wis check to avoid attacking an ally if there are no foes left?

[Lobo316]

OK, so here is what I think I am going with...

At the end of a fury, a barbarian must pass a constitution saving throw or be fatigued. For each point he passes the check by, reduce the amount of time fatigued by one hour (so, pass the check by four or more and you are not fatigued).

[Treebore]

Does anyone ignore the wis check to avoid attacking an ally if there are no foes left?

No, I didn't remove it. I thought it made sense for someone who is in a blood lusting rage.

[Lobo316]

Does anyone ignore the wis check to avoid attacking an ally if there are no foes left?

No, I didn't remove it. I thought it made sense for someone who is in a blood lusting rage.

Yea, I didn't remove it either, just curious to see how other's handled it. I actually like the "flavor"/theme of it. Very colorful.

[Lobo316]

I'm also playing with advantages and added these to the advantages list (in case anyone is interested)...

Primal Power
Prerequisite: Primal Fury
Barbarians with primal power increase their bonuses from primal fury (when raging) by +1 (the penalties remain the same)

Primal Warrior
Prerequisite: Primal Fury
Primal warrior increases the number of times per day you can rage (use primal fury) by +1. This may be taken multiple times.

[Rigon]

Does anyone ignore the wis check to avoid attacking an ally if there are no foes left?

No, I didn't remove it. I thought it made sense for someone who is in a blood lusting rage.

What he said.

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[Rigon]

Does anyone ignore the wis check to avoid attacking an ally if there are no foes left?

No, I didn't remove it. I thought it made sense for someone who is in a blood lusting rage.

Yea, I didn't remove it either, just curious to see how other's handled it. I actually like the "flavor"/theme of it. Very colorful.

In my house rules, I added the 1-3rd print barbarian as a berserker class.

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[Lurker]

In my house rules, I added the 1-3rd print barbarian as a berserker class.

R-

I've been kicking around that idea too. To me a barbarian is a racial background (I'm working ideas on Racial classes but don't want to chase that rabbit here), but a Beserker *1st - 3rd print Barb* is a class open to secific races/backgrounds (dwarf, low to mid civilized humans, not elf or high civilized humans)

[Dracyian]

In my house rules, I added the 1-3rd print barbarian as a berserker class.

R-

I've been kicking around that idea too. To me a barbarian is a racial background (I'm working ideas on Racial classes but don't want to chase that rabbit here), but a Beserker *1st - 3rd print Barb* is a class open to secific races/backgrounds (dwarf, low to mid civilized humans, not elf or high civilized humans)

Nomadic in nature at all?

[ChaosImp]

I thought the Trolls are being a bit lenient with only four hours rest, below states it took them a couple of days to recuperate.


This fury, which was called berserkergang, occurred not only in the heat of battle, but also during laborious work. Men who were thus seized performed things which otherwise seemed impossible for human power. This condition is said to have begun with shivering, chattering of the teeth, and chill in the body, and then the face swelled and changed its colour. With this was connected a great hot-headedness, which at last gave over into a great rage, under which they howled as wild animals, bit the edge of their shields, and cut down everything they met without discriminating between friend or foe. When this condition ceased, a great dulling of the mind and feebleness followed, which could last for one or several days.[14]

I think the above was written by an Byzantium observer.
Cheers
IMP

[Treebore]

In my house rules, I added the 1-3rd print barbarian as a berserker class.

R-

I've been kicking around that idea too. To me a barbarian is a racial background (I'm working ideas on Racial classes but don't want to chase that rabbit here), but a Beserker *1st - 3rd print Barb* is a class open to secific races/backgrounds (dwarf, low to mid civilized humans, not elf or high civilized humans)

Nomadic in nature at all?

According to how I interpret the writing in C&C, a "barbarian" describes any warrior outside of "civilized" lands. So apparently the barbarian fighting "style" is a reflection of their unrefined ways of living and fighting. Being nomadic has nothing to do with it. Considering how our real world "barbarians" lived, being nomadic isn't a pre requisite for them either. So I just go with it.

[Lurker]

According to how I interpret the writing in C&C, a "barbarian" describes any warrior outside of "civilized" lands. So apparently the barbarian fighting "style" is a reflection of their unrefined ways of living and fighting. Being nomadic has nothing to do with it. Considering how our real world "barbarians" lived, being nomadic isn't a pre requisite for them either. So I just go with it.

Rgr that. Uncivilized (at least compared to 'Rome' like civilization) yes, nomadic it depends.

[Dracyian]

According to how I interpret the writing in C&C, a "barbarian" describes any warrior outside of "civilized" lands. So apparently the barbarian fighting "style" is a reflection of their unrefined ways of living and fighting. Being nomadic has nothing to do with it. Considering how our real world "barbarians" lived, being nomadic isn't a pre requisite for them either. So I just go with it.

Rgr that. Uncivilized (at least compared to 'Rome' like civilization) yes, nomadic it depends.

I was curious because a lot of the fantasy works I read they normally make Barbians slightly nomadic at least

[Treebore]

According to how I interpret the writing in C&C, a "barbarian" describes any warrior outside of "civilized" lands. So apparently the barbarian fighting "style" is a reflection of their unrefined ways of living and fighting. Being nomadic has nothing to do with it. Considering how our real world "barbarians" lived, being nomadic isn't a pre requisite for them either. So I just go with it.

Rgr that. Uncivilized (at least compared to 'Rome' like civilization) yes, nomadic it depends.

I was curious because a lot of the fantasy works I read they normally make Barbians slightly nomadic at least

True, but believe it or not the Trolls are actually well educated. I think one of them even has a degree in history, but don't quote me on which degree's they have. So I imagine they went more "real world" on that rather than taking a cue from literature. At least that is what I am assuming considering how that description is worded.

[Dracyian]

According to how I interpret the writing in C&C, a "barbarian" describes any warrior outside of "civilized" lands. So apparently the barbarian fighting "style" is a reflection of their unrefined ways of living and fighting. Being nomadic has nothing to do with it. Considering how our real world "barbarians" lived, being nomadic isn't a pre requisite for them either. So I just go with it.

Rgr that. Uncivilized (at least compared to 'Rome' like civilization) yes, nomadic it depends.

I was curious because a lot of the fantasy works I read they normally make Barbians slightly nomadic at least

True, but believe it or not the Trolls are actually well educated. I think one of them even has a degree in history, but don't quote me on which degree's they have. So I imagine they went more "real world" on that rather than taking a cue from literature. At least that is what I am assuming considering how that description is worded.

That's really cool actually and I always get stuck with the debate in my head where do I stop the real world limitations and allow the fantasy stuff to start taking over, I'm not so much the super powered heroes but I do like a little bit of fluff and extra abilities to separate the heroes from the everyday common folk in my games