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Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:47 am
by slimykuotoan
So pour moi, a new C&C Players Handbook cover, with a black and white interior, would be the Displacer Beast's meow. Absolutely.

That would be my custom wish.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:09 am
by slimykuotoan
Baring that, a colour interior with black text.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:54 am
by Kayolan
Customizable player's handbooks sound great! I'm more of a b&w art guy myself. And while I like the color covers, there is something about the b&w interior art that resonates with me more than the full color look.

The original cover art is my favorite, and I especially like the 3rd printing player's handbook the most (yes I even like the paper). It would be awesome if that could be put together with the added stuff from the later printings :)

Also, adding in content from Crusader Magazine? I would pay more for a book like that, with additional material added in to suit my game.

Wondering about the possibility of a 'best of' or compilation book of the Crusader...

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:07 pm
by slimykuotoan
While we're voicing our interests in this idea, the most AWESOME thing for me, if not a new cover paired with black and white interior, would be a 2nd printing PHB and M&T with updated black and white material. Oh by the gods of Aihrde, that would be SUPREME.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:18 pm
by serleran
I would simply request all monsters and treasures from published sources, including the PDF-only releases, get compiled together. Some of them, I would like printed backwards. Because I'm sick.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:22 pm
by Arduin
serleran wrote:. Some of them, I would like printed backwards. Because I'm sick.
In the latest printing of the M&T there are 3 monsters, which if the lettering is reversed, reveal new monsters. I just did that with the PDF. Interesting indeed.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:17 pm
by tylermo
Other than time, I would think the Trolls could bang out some custom softcovers. Not like time is important down there in Arkansas. ;) Hardcovers? That would involve Walsworth I would think. Then again, I'm speaking as if I know anything. I don't. :lol:

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:52 pm
by slimykuotoan
I really need a black and white interior with hardcover, or at least black text. My eyes have a difficult time registering the red text for some reason.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:55 pm
by Rigon
slimykuotoan wrote:I really need a black and white interior with hardcover, or at least black text. My eyes have a difficult time registering the red text for some reason.
**cough** old **cough**. ;)

R-

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:51 am
by slimykuotoan
I'm not sure. I know that for certain people, this text can produce a problem.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:39 pm
by Troll Lord
What we can do in house is soft covers. Hardcovers printing we can use PODs. (that said we can do inline hardcovers, which I much prefer to what we do now for the books themselves, as you can open them flat on a surface and leave them there, open).

The real issue becomes layout. Peter, Elizabeth or myself have to take the time to lay it out. That's where the real cost comes into play.

We've talked about this alot around here. We love the idea of customizing the game to your table, but it always breaks down on the rock of that layout.

Doing a b/w softcover is no problem with any printings of course, as the books are already laid out. But to put all the corrections of the latter printings into a 3rd printing would not be possible. If that makes sense?

Steve

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:23 pm
by marroon69
Why? Just wondering? Seems strange to me

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:01 am
by slimykuotoan
Troll Lord wrote:Hardcovers printing we can use PODs.

Steve
That's fantastic news! I'd like to order a few new cover (hardcover) players handbooks with black and white interiors. Will this be advertised on the Troll store or should I e-mail you directly for the details?

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:16 am
by Kayolan
I didn't realize POD was available.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:22 pm
by Troll Lord
marroon69 wrote:Why? Just wondering? Seems strange to me
The time to go back and fix previous printings would be monstrous and we are already running several months behind present schedules. If we took the present printings and re-laid them out to appear like the previous ones it would hit us in the time wallet again.

Steve

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:24 pm
by Troll Lord
slimykuotoan wrote:
Troll Lord wrote:Hardcovers printing we can use PODs.

Steve
That's fantastic news! I'd like to order a few new cover (hardcover) players handbooks with black and white interiors. Will this be advertised on the Troll store or should I e-mail you directly for the details?
I haven't opened this door yet. I can't do anything that upsets our time clock. We are already on a fierce production schedule (which is good). But if you talking about ordering a PH with b/w interior, hardcover, with different covers on them. I would have to find the POD, relay the covers out, submit job, go through their corrections/fixes etc and resubmit etc. All the above takes several hours of work, which doesn't sound like alot but it is. And I want allocate anyone's time to anything other than getting the present books done and out.

Be very specific though, what are you wanting on the covers?

Steve

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:26 pm
by Troll Lord
Kayolan wrote:I didn't realize POD was available.
It is, but I'm not happy with the quality of most PODs. The binding is fair, but the printing and paper stock is a little dubious.

Steve

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:31 pm
by slimykuotoan
Troll Lord wrote:Be very specific though, what are you wanting on the covers?

Steve
Hi Steve:

There's no rush, but I would love to get 6th printing Players Handbooks with black and white interiors.

So the 6th printing PHB cover (the current colour hardcover) paired with a black and white interior.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:44 am
by slimykuotoan
I like the coloured artwork, but find the red text too difficult to read.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:23 pm
by slimykuotoan
Here's a customization idea: book jackets! Would these be possible at all? It'd be cool to order book jackets for PHBs, M&Ts and etcetera, featuring published artwork from C&C!

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:10 pm
by Troll Lord
slimykuotoan wrote:
Troll Lord wrote:Be very specific though, what are you wanting on the covers?

Steve
Hi Steve:

There's no rush, but I would love to get 6th printing Players Handbooks with black and white interiors.

So the 6th printing PHB cover (the current colour hardcover) paired with a black and white interior.
I think we can manage a b/w version. Softcover would be very easy, hardcover we'd have to use POD.

Steve

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:27 am
by tylermo
I'd like a 6th printing phb hardcover and softcover with the picture of the TLG sales team at GenCon on the cover.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:00 am
by slimykuotoan
Troll Lord wrote:I think we can manage a b/w version... hardcover we'd have to use POD.

Steve
So Steve, the POD would be similar in presentation (binding, etc.) to the TLG PHB hardcover currently on sale?

If so, I would like to order a few. :)

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:06 am
by alcyone
Options I like that are probably not retail friendly but CK friendly are comb bound (so they lie flat) or three hole punched loose pages (I know, Monstrous Compendium, but lets face it, I'll buy the retail hardcover too).

The three hole punched would make it easy to throw house rules in, or reprint single pages from the PDF to replace torn pages, or just have disposable pages you don't mind scribbling your house rules on.

I will probably just do that myself; it comes to about $15-25 in toner, paper, and binder + the price of the PDF. Still, I'd welcome a commercial solution, with professional tabs, map pocket, binder inserts, maybe the screen printed as cardstock, punched ref sheets to put in front.

Re: Serious question for the Trolls -Are custom orders possi

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:14 am
by slimykuotoan
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