More proposed Errata and Clarifacations

[pineappleleader]

Hi Everyone:

Proposed Errata:

1. PHB (2nd), page 16, DISGUISE (Charisma), 3rd paragraph. The observers intelligence check modifiers should be +4, +8, and +12, not negative. See the similar ability for the Illusionist on page 22.

Not Really Errata:

2.Assassins can poison blade weapons. To my way of thinking only a Contact Poison is suitable for this. The only contact poison listed in the chart on page 17 is Poison Ivy. It is of little use to poison a blade weapon. Perhaps a more suitable contact poison for use on blades could be added to the table. (If there is one in the M & T Book please disregard this point - I do not have this book; yet.).

3. I still think that the PHB (2nd), page 17, Poison Table, BLACK HELLEBORE question should be officially clarified.

Is there an official Collector of Errata that I can send any I find to?

Cheers,

[Traveller]

I am the UNOFFICIAL official errata monkey, and there is a thread already regarding errata. You can PM me, or you can email me at cnctraveller@yahoo.com with your observations.

Now...what's this issue about "black hellebore"?
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[pineappleleader]

Traveller wrote:
Now...what's this issue about "black hellebore"?

Please see the thread " New to C &C and a Question". ( I'd give you the link but I don't know how to do that ).

[serleran]

I already officially clarified the poison issue, as I wrote it. There is no change to what is in the book. As for where the info for ingested black hellebore is found... its not, as it wasn't included in the PHB, so it might end up in the CKG or a Crusader article. In fact, a lot of poison-related stuff was cut from the PHB due to space restrictions (it wasn't easy to get the stuff in in the first place.)

So black hellebore is not errata.
Here is the link to the thread in question.

[Nifelhein]

this thread, Traveller. Serleran spoke on it.

And Pineappleleader, the thread Traveller spoke about is this one.
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[irda ranger]

pineappleleader wrote:
2.Assassins can poison blade weapons. To my way of thinking only a Contact Poison is suitable for this. The only contact poison listed in the chart on page 17 is Poison Ivy. It is of little use to poison a blade weapon. Perhaps a more suitable contact poison for use on blades could be added to the table. (If there is one in the M & T Book please disregard this point - I do not have this book; yet.).

Contact poisons are poisonous whent they come into contact with your skin. Most assassins use a stabbing motion when attacking with a poisoned dagger, not a "vigorous rubbing." Most ingested poisons are probably suitable for dagger application (when used "properly").
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[pineappleleader]

serleran wrote:
So black hellebore is not errata.

Finally got it. Thank You.

Cheers,

[pineappleleader]

irda ranger wrote:
Contact poisons are poisonous when they come into contact with your skin. Most assassins use a stabbing motion when attacking with a poisoned dagger, not a "vigorous rubbing." Most ingested poisons are probably suitable for dagger application (when used "properly").

Good point.

As Serleran pointed out information on this stuff is hard to come by. Not being a poisoner by trade, I really do not know much about it. In the 1eAD&D DMG it indicates that ingestive types do NOT work on blades. In fact it listed a special type for use on blades - insinuative. I mis-recalled this as contact.

As you pointed out the rules for use are different in C&C. Confusion dispelled.

Thank You

"vigorous rubbing." - lol

[phadeout]

pineappleleader wrote:
"vigorous rubbing." - lol

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend Poison Ivy as your Vigorous Rubbing Compound of choice
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