M&T Errata
M&T Errata
Hi all-
Is there any errata for Monsters & Treasure. I'm looking through some of the monsters, and some of them seem suspiciously... 3E-ish. As though monsters might have had ability scores in the beginning.
For example, the Aboleth. Damage is 1d6+8. Very similar to 3E's 1d6+9.
Then there are the giants- most have just a set of damage dice. IE, the fire giant does 5d6 for example. But the hill giant does 2d6+6. Hmmm...
So, is there errata? And if not, are their guidelines to convert such issues from one type of damage to another?
-Fizz
Is there any errata for Monsters & Treasure. I'm looking through some of the monsters, and some of them seem suspiciously... 3E-ish. As though monsters might have had ability scores in the beginning.
For example, the Aboleth. Damage is 1d6+8. Very similar to 3E's 1d6+9.
Then there are the giants- most have just a set of damage dice. IE, the fire giant does 5d6 for example. But the hill giant does 2d6+6. Hmmm...
So, is there errata? And if not, are their guidelines to convert such issues from one type of damage to another?
-Fizz
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Re: M&T Errata
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Ha! In another thread i was asking about Shapechangers. Lycanthropes ARE shapechangers!
Anywho, thanks for the link.
But the errata doesn't say anything about the damage issue. I'm sure the damage for the aboleth, aichaierai, barghest, hill giant, etc, is from an early draft of the book.
Any opinions on how to convert it to simply a set of damage die without a Strength modifier?
-Fizz
Anywho, thanks for the link.
But the errata doesn't say anything about the damage issue. I'm sure the damage for the aboleth, aichaierai, barghest, hill giant, etc, is from an early draft of the book.
Any opinions on how to convert it to simply a set of damage die without a Strength modifier?
-Fizz
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Might be cause there really isn't a damage issue. Serleran might be able to shed more light on the matter, but far as I know the damages for the critters are as they are supposed to be.
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Yeah, damage is a guideline as far as I am concerned. I agree the Hill Giant's damage is probably 3E left overs, but irregardless I add a STR modifier to their attacks based on the Belt of Strength in the M&T.
Plus whenever I find anything that bugs me in the M&T I look in my 3E MM's to see what was done in 3E, then decide how I want it to be.
If you don't have the 3E MM's (it sounds like you do) you can find most of them (all of them?) in the online SRD (System Reference Document) from WOTC.
So decide how you like it and then pencil it into your M&T, then its "official" for your game, and you stay consistant.
Plus whenever I find anything that bugs me in the M&T I look in my 3E MM's to see what was done in 3E, then decide how I want it to be.
If you don't have the 3E MM's (it sounds like you do) you can find most of them (all of them?) in the online SRD (System Reference Document) from WOTC.
So decide how you like it and then pencil it into your M&T, then its "official" for your game, and you stay consistant.
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Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
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The damage bonus is not an indicator of strength. Its simply a bonus to damage. Its there to reflect the amount of damage dealt in non-d20 sources.
Monsters, at no point, had ability scores, nor were they ever to get them (though it seems the CKG might be changing that; I have nothing to do with giving monsters stats -- they don't need them.)
And, as for the errata on lycanthropes... they are both shapechangers and humanoids, technically. I'd have to look at my original MS to see what they were when submitted, but I'm thinking shapechanger...
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Well, I looked, and I see the issue on that clearer. The original MS didn't list types, as they weren't going to be used, but the lycanthrope had the "special" of being "Shapechanger." Seems some miscommunication/misunderstanding happened, hence errata. Heh, if only Steve would respond to emails more often, little things like this might be more infrequent
Monsters, at no point, had ability scores, nor were they ever to get them (though it seems the CKG might be changing that; I have nothing to do with giving monsters stats -- they don't need them.)
And, as for the errata on lycanthropes... they are both shapechangers and humanoids, technically. I'd have to look at my original MS to see what they were when submitted, but I'm thinking shapechanger...
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Well, I looked, and I see the issue on that clearer. The original MS didn't list types, as they weren't going to be used, but the lycanthrope had the "special" of being "Shapechanger." Seems some miscommunication/misunderstanding happened, hence errata. Heh, if only Steve would respond to emails more often, little things like this might be more infrequent
joewolz wrote:
Where do we send new Errata to? I just found one in M&T that's not listed:
The Frost Giant has "Vulnerability to Cold" listed under it's stat block, but in the Description it says "Vulnerability to Fire"
I know it's an obvious error.
Traveller consolidates the errata.
Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals.
Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
Grand Knight Commander of the Society.
Sounds obvious to me! -Gm Michael
Grand Knight Commander of the Society.
Shoot me a PM and make sure that one of the Trolls has note of it so that it can be incorporated into a future printing.
I don't know when he next time will be that I can update the errata documents. I'm still trying to fix up the layout on "The Caves of Sydwall" for the Back In Print Project, and that is my top priority, or at least would be, if I was independently wealthy and didn't have to work.
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I don't know when he next time will be that I can update the errata documents. I'm still trying to fix up the layout on "The Caves of Sydwall" for the Back In Print Project, and that is my top priority, or at least would be, if I was independently wealthy and didn't have to work.
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