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Arcane Magic Battle 
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Post Arcane Magic Battle
Hi All:

Wanted to come up with a way to simulate a battle between two arcane magics, kinda like the battle between Galdolf and Sauron at Dol Guldur, or, in my case, fighting against an evil object... for example:

The 3rd Level Mage walks into the crypt as the evil entombed here overwhelms her. She sees the Translucent Green Jade Skull on the pedestal and realizes the source of the evil that has blanketed this area. It also knows she is here…

Below is what I came up with, I'd appreciate any suggestions or alternatives.


Mechanics:

    - INT Skill Checks
    - Mana Points

Assign Level to the Relic and any spells or mental attacks it might have. Determine the trauma (MANA) to be dealt with a “hit”. Once reduced to 0 Mana Points, the Magic has been defeated, and can not continue to resist.

We might decide: The Evil lurking in the Jade Skull has INT as prime, 15 Mana Points, and casts as a 5th level Wizard. Its spells are Fear and Confusion. A successful "hit" will deal 1d4 MANA points.


Combat Round

    Roll for Initiative
    Make skill check relevant to the target
    Roll for Damage if successful


Example Combat Round

The Mage removes her riding cloak as she prepares to do battle. She instructs her companions to wait outside and steps into the crypt, as an overconfident young fighter follows curiously. As they approach the green light, she feels the evil sweep over her as the Skull casts its Fear Spell upon the intruders.

The Mage succeeds at her Savings Throw, however, the Fighter fails and runs out of the tomb as the evil becomes stronger.

The Mage focuses her magic and attacks by rolling an INT Skill Check against a CL 5 (5th level Wizard), adding her Level and Attribute bonuses. She scores a hit and does 3 Mana points of damage.

The evil forces in the skull strike back with its own INT Skill Check with a CL 3 (Level 3 Wizard), and it misses...


Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:28 pm
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Post Re: Arcane Magic Battle
why no just lob spells at each other like a melee combat?

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Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:42 pm
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Post Re: Arcane Magic Battle
Captain_K wrote:
why no just lob spells at each other like a melee combat?
Appreciate the reply, and that's certainly available, and is represented in the example with the Fear Spell.

I wanted to represent the mental struggle that is going on, a "battle of the minds" of sorts. In my world, this is different than each wizard shooting Magic Missiles at each until someone loses HP, so much so, that I felt I needed away to show the ebb and flow of mental trauma.

Mana points and Skill Checks seemed like the perfect way to add this.


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Post Re: Arcane Magic Battle
I understand what you are aiming at, and I've thought about things like that myself. However, I was never cleaver enough to figure out a good solution to it.

I'm not sure if what you came up with is to 'simple' ... not sure how to explain it ... However, I also don't like CK's 'just lob spells at it either. Not with it being a contest of skill and will.

I can see where there are spells that could be useful - dispel magic, geas (or a revers of geas as a counter to it) bless (to counter an evil magic) etc could be useful

But again, not sure how to make the idea work

Maybe looking back at 1e / 2e and intelligent items and will power as a root idea. I can't remember what those rules were like . I'd hae to di out my old books and look.

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Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:07 pm
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Post Re: Arcane Magic Battle
I think I just skimmed across something in the adventurer's backpack...

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Wed May 01, 2019 1:32 am
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Post Re: Arcane Magic Battle
Thanks CK, I missed that :

Quote:
Any spell casting class or spell using monster can attempt a counter spell against another spell caster or magic using creature. To launch a counter spell the spell-caster must make the announcement at the beginning of the round, before initiative is rolled. They make an attribute check, again before initiative for that round is rolled, to determine what spell or magical attack their opponent is taking that round.
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If the attribute check is successful the spell caster knows what spell or magical attack the opponent is launching that round. They can choose to attack the opponent with their own spell, or they can choose to cast a defensive spell to counteract the opponent’s spell. The spell caster must announce this immediately, again before initiative is rolled. (p 84)

Interesting, I can see how this could make for a fun duel.

I like all these options...


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