Troll Lord Games

Hey everyone... just found this site and the whole "C&C" experience. I'm an old school gamer from the 80's and think I may have hit the motherlode here. As with most things, however, I am a bit overwhelmed... What should I start with, rulebook-wise (i.e, what is the PH, DMG and MM)?

And since I live in Little Rock, can I just drive over and pick it up?
thanks,

Kim

The players Handbook and Monsters & Treasures will give you all the gaming goodness you need.

DangerDwarf wrote:
The players Handbook and Monsters & Treasures will give you all the gaming goodness you need.

Indeed; the Castle Keeper's Guide, which is being released this summer, is more of an Unearthed Arcana for C&C than a true DMG.

Also, though, I'd add to 'Dwarf's suggestion that you pick up the CK Screens. They're stunning and some of the best screens I've seen; they really do enable you to run without opening the book hardly at all...even the treasure tables and experience tables are in there! They suffer for not having rules to determine CC of a spell save, but that's about it.

You found the madness motherlode here, welcome aboard, hope you enjoy the game.
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"We cannot live only for ourselves. A thousand fibers connect us with our fellow men; and among those fibers, as sympathetic threads, our actions run as causes, and they come back to us as effects." - Attributed to Herman Melville.

Welcome to the Crusade!!

I just started myself. I bought my PHB and M&T on Amazon for $13 each, and that's really all you need to start. The community here is very friendly, and they will help you find all kinds of good links and advice for the game. Take a look at this thread. It addresses all the concerns I had as I was leaving my TSR/WotC comfort zone and starting to think about C&C.

Good luck and have fun.

We welcome you with swords raised on high. Welcome to the Crusade.

PHB & M&T is all you'll ever need to run fantastic swords and sorcery adventures. Of course, once you've gotten the taste of what C&C has to offer, there are a plethora of modules and settings to choose from, both from Troll Lord Games and from the fans here.

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khartsfield wrote:
Hey everyone... just found this site and the whole "C&C" experience. I'm an old school gamer from the 80's and think I may have hit the motherlode here. As with most things, however, I am a bit overwhelmed... What should I start with, rulebook-wise (i.e, what is the PH, DMG and MM)?

And since I live in Little Rock, can I just drive over and pick it up?
thanks,

Kim

Hello and welcome. Glad to have you with us!

Yes, by all means, drop in on the Trolls. Most excellent fellows.

Enjoy the game!
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Count Rhuveinus - Lejendary Keeper of Castle Franqueforte

"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax

"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth

khartsfield wrote:
And since I live in Little Rock, can I just drive over and pick it up?
thanks,

Kim

*chuckles* Im sure Steve wont mind having to deal with shipping.
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Peter Bradley

DangerDwarf wrote:
The players Handbook and Monsters & Treasures will give you all the gaming goodness you need.

Just to reiterate - that really is all you need. I bought both, homebrewed a campaign, and haven't needed to purchase anything else. I was a gamer back in the mid-to-late 70s and early 80s and this is definitely old school goodness!

Welcome aboard!
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Laudir Agus Mir

Welcome to the Crusade! May you find you want to get the third print of the PHB and 2nd print of M&T.

Welcome

I'm also an old 80s D&D gamer and pretty new to C&C but in the last couple of weeks I at last feel like I've recaptured the feeling i had when I was a teen and started playing for the first time.

As has been said above the community here is really friendlywith all kinds of advice and links...check out - http://www.dragonsfoot.org/cc/ and http://www.cncplayer.net/ & http://www.geocities.com/cnctraveller/cnc1.html for loads of great stuff.

Also the campaign world of Airhde is the closest in terms of epic history and the feel of a lost ancient grandeur to Middle Earth that I've come across.

You will love it!

Happy Crusading...

aethelulf22 wrote:
Welcome

I'm also an old 80s D&D gamer and pretty new to C&C but in the last couple of weeks I at last feel like I've recaptured the feeling i had when I was a teen and started playing for the first time.

As has been said above the community here is really friendlywith all kinds of advice and links...check out - http://www.dragonsfoot.org/cc/ and http://www.cncplayer.net/ & http://www.geocities.com/cnctraveller/cnc1.html for loads of great stuff.

Also the campaign world of Airhde is the closest in terms of epic history and the feel of a lost ancient grandeur to Middle Earth that I've come across.

You will love it!

Happy Crusading...

Ditto! I even started gaming in '85. Not only do I hope it works for you, but for a group of your players too!

And on this day I can truly greet the new people with the star wars line..

May the Fourth be with you.
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Peter Bradley

Hmm. Weirdo.

Did I miss some thing? That comment seemed rather random. Just sayin'.

............................................Omote

FPQ
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> Omote's Advanced C&C stuff <
Duke Omote Landwehr, Holy Order of the FPQ ~ Prince of the Castles & Crusades Society

I feel the same, I think it was another of Pete's jokes only Pete can understand.
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"We cannot live only for ourselves. A thousand fibers connect us with our fellow men; and among those fibers, as sympathetic threads, our actions run as causes, and they come back to us as effects." - Attributed to Herman Melville.

Gideon, just so long as its not the "Schwartz".
Kim, welcome aboard! Yes, the PHB and M&T is all you need. You can squeak by with just the PHB if you've got some AD&D Monster Manuals, but I'd reccomend getting the M&T anyway as it not only got a more intuitive Treasure system but breaks said treasure into things like lost art objects of worth and other things instead of just the ubiquitous XYZ number of gp.
Oh, and did you ever hear from Heather & Nathan?
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Always remember, as a first principle of all D&D: playing BtB is not now, never was and never will be old school.- Tim Kask, Dragonsfoot

Omote wrote:
Hmm. Weirdo.

Did I miss some thing? That comment seemed rather random. Just sayin'.

............................................Omote

FPQ

Dude.. whats the date? ^_~` thiiiink about it.
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Peter Bradley

No comments.
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"We cannot live only for ourselves. A thousand fibers connect us with our fellow men; and among those fibers, as sympathetic threads, our actions run as causes, and they come back to us as effects." - Attributed to Herman Melville.

gideon_thorne wrote:
And on this day I can truly greet the new people with the star wars line..

May the Fourth be with you.

Hehe, I got it and it was funny.

[You other guys are working too hard today! ]
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Count Rhuveinus - Lejendary Keeper of Castle Franqueforte

"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax

"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth

sieg wrote:
Gideon, just so long as its not the "Schwartz".

Haha, this is even funnier!
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Count Rhuveinus - Lejendary Keeper of Castle Franqueforte

"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax

"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth

As a kid I had a teacher who would jokingly have the class celebrate National Trucker's Day on October 4th every year.

10/4

Breaker, breaker, this is S, sending digits to DD. What's your 20? Over.

serleran wrote:
Breaker, breaker, this is S, sending digits to DD. What's your 20? Over.

Breaker one . . ninnne. Copy. This here's the Rubber Duck. We got a bear in air . . good buddy. Don't put the peddle to the metal. Over.
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Count Rhuveinus - Lejendary Keeper of Castle Franqueforte

"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax

"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth

Copy that Ernie. I see the smoke from the backside. Over and out.

The bear's about two yard sticks past the chicken coop. Get past him and I'll run ahead and shake the bushes if you'll catch the back door.

Thanks to everyone for the replies. I'l probably have a lot of questions, so be prepared.
Thanks,

Kim

Questions are cool. This is the best on-line community I've seen. Plenty of knowledgeable people here to help you with any questions you may have.

Every now and again, we actually stay on topic too!

DangerDwarf wrote:
Every now and again, we actually stay on topic too!

Pish. It's a game. How seriously do we need to take it?
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Peter Bradley

gideon_thorne wrote:
Pish. It's a game. How seriously do we need to take it?

Game? GAME?!?! What do you mean game!?!?!? It's a friggin' lifestyle man! C&C is like this kickass philosophy ethical lifepaths. Haven't you read the section on alignment man! I mean, that stuff is deep.

Game? OMFG.....

"....look here good buddy, this here's the Rubber Duck. We ain't a gonna pay no toll! Gonna crash the gate, doin' 98, say 'Let dem Truckers roll, 10-4!"

God, I'm old...
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Always remember, as a first principle of all D&D: playing BtB is not now, never was and never will be old school.- Tim Kask, Dragonsfoot