Vampire's Turn Resistance

The 8th Samurai · Post by **The 8th Samurai** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:39 am

The ability of Turn Resistance is stated on the stat block of the vampire. However, I cannot find where it describes what this ability is. What is Turn Resistance?

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:41 am

Errata. It should not be there.

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:49 pm

Yep, a 3E ism that slipped over from the SRD.
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ChaosImp · Post by **ChaosImp** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:04 pm

I kept the turn resistance for powerful undead, I thought it was a good idea. Mainly I just like to see the look on the players face when the vampire reisted the clerics turning.

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:10 pm

Well, its not quite a holdover from the SRD (the vampire conversion was not a cut and paste, seeing as how its a template in d20...), but rather, another in a series of miscommunication due to my lack of not having the PHB (or box set) when M&T was being developed, and my not deciding which version (of three) I liked for TR. So, in the end, it was best to just drop it, because there was never any agreed function for it.

Maybe I should re-start my old Q&A thread...

The 8th Samurai · Post by **The 8th Samurai** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:21 pm

At first I thought maybe you change the Wisdom CB for turning undead to 18, instead of 12, for turn resistance. I then looked in the description (and everywhere else for it) and couldn't find it. So if I didn't receive an official answer here I was just going to raise the turning CB from 12 to 18. Maybe I still will . . . not sure yet.

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serleran · Post by **serleran** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:31 pm

That was one of the ways it would have worked. Another involved being somewhat like SR, in that, before a turn could even be done you had to roll over a X on a d20, unmodified (this was too complicated because it meant having to roll twice). The last, effectively gave the undead a save against the turning, which was again, too complex because it meant two rolls, and would be seen as "opposed" which don't actually exist in C&C, by the book. A couple other ideas floated about were just giving the undead HD boosts for turning only which is almost the same as treating the turn as non-Prime, but that was tossed. In the end, turn resistance was just dropped, but if you want to use it... there are many ways of using it. It'll be a houserule, though.

BASH MAN · Post by **BASH MAN** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:55 am

Why not just have Turn Resistance increase the creatures HD with respect to turning? Maybe a +4 bonus? So to turn a 8HD vampire you'd have to be able to turn a 12HD creature!

This does not add any extra dice rolls for anybody involved.
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Jason Vey · Post by **Jason Vey** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:46 pm

I usually just allow intelligent critters to make a contested roll using their WIS against the Cleric.